Google I/O might have been full of showstopper announcements like Google Music Beta and Ice Cream Sandwich, but the most important announcement might be the most prosaic: Google's formed a committee of Android OEMs and carriers to improve how and when Android updates are distributed to customers. And it's a pretty impressive committee: the founding members are Verizon, HTC, Samsung, Sprint, Sony Ericsson, LG, T-Mobile, Vodafone, Motorola, and AT&T. The group's first move is to promise that that new Android devices from these partners will receive updates for 18 months after launch, pending hardware support, which is a great step towards addressing the problem of orphan devices. That's not bad for an opening act -- and we have high hopes that the group can smooth out the uneven Android update process.
Of course, we're aslo curious about a few things: do these partners get early access to Android source, which has been the source of some controversy in recent months? If so, where does that leave companies like Dell, which is notably absent from the list? And exactly how many updates are required in that 18-month period? Every update Google releases, or just major ones? We'll look for more answers and let you know what we find out.
Update: We just asked Andy Rubin how the 18-month update commitment will work in light of every manufacturer's customizations -- a source of considerable heartache in the Android upgrade picture so far. His answer? They're "actively thinking it out right now" with the partners that have been announced -- they've been "tasked with figuring out how to make it work." He says details should start to emerge in the next few weeks, but we imagine there'll be some heated conversations behind closed doors in the process of banging this out.
Talking about the size and constituency of the partnership so far, Rubin says that "it's an open invitation" to any manufacturer or carrier that wants to participate -- but that it made sense to start out small for the sake of manageability. Long term, "there's no reason not to have everyone in it."

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“We have created the most powerful smartphone ever. It is running a quad-core Quallcomm processor, features a massive 32GB of flash memory, with 4GB of RAM, supports 1080p output and also playback on it’s Super LCD 1650×1050 screen with extreme pixel density. It will be released with Android 2.3, but it can’t run Android 2.4, because we say so.” I’m just waiting for that to happen!
Posted on May 10, 2011 | 1:52 PM EDT reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
Let me correct you… 200tb of ram is the correct spec. We need android 99.5 superjellybean for support for al that ram. :P
Posted on May 10, 2011 | 2:23 PM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
i think that version of android would be something like zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzebra cakes.
Posted on May 10, 2011 | 6:17 PM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
“We have created the most powerful smartphone ever. It is running a quad-core Quallcomm processor, features a massive 32GB of flash memory, with 4GB of RAM, supports 1080p output and also playback on it’s Super LCD 1650×1050 screen with extreme pixel density. It will be released with Android 2.3, but it can’t run Android 2.4, because we say so.” I’m just waiting for that to happen!
Posted on May 10, 2011 | 1:52 PM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
Thanks for pointing out that Dell is missing here. Actually come to think of it I have never seen a dell smartphone in the wild. I realize I live in Verizon Country but come on Dell, what are you waiting on? The party is here, lets see what you can bring to it.
Posted on May 10, 2011 | 2:00 PM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
They really gotta figure this out. Tech changes every second, if you can’t make updates it makes the device obsolete before release.
Posted on May 10, 2011 | 2:00 PM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
If anything the loss of an important security update is a far more serious issue.
Posted on May 10, 2011 | 2:07 PM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
18 months is an answer to the wrong question. The pain point is not “how long,” but rather “how soon” will updates be available.
Posted on May 10, 2011 | 2:02 PM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
Precisely. It should be 18 months of prompt updates plus prompt security updates & bug fixes for 24 months after the date the model was discontinued.
Posted on May 10, 2011 | 3:38 PM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
The devil is definitely in the detail on this one. It’s good having this commitment between key players in the android world, but doesn’t mean a lot of they haven’t actually formed the plan of action yet. Here’s hoping it works out….
Posted on May 10, 2011 | 5:33 PM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
Hey nail, sorry for hitting you on the head so hard – Bodhiballer.
This is worthless if it means that say, 3.0 tablets will get upgraded to 3.1 18 months from now. What it should be is that updates released by Google in the 18 months after a device comes out will be promptly created for that device.
Posted on May 10, 2011 | 7:11 PM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
Exactly – it’s painfully obvious Google are new to this.
They’re now stuck between keeping consumers and OEMs happy. Annoy the consumers, they’l get another phone – Annoy the OEMs they’ll make another phone.
Posted on May 10, 2011 | 9:06 PM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
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they’ve been "tasked with figuring out how to make it work.
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And they’re very imaginative, so I’m sure this will turn out well. It’s especially nice that even under this program the typical data contract will outlast product support. I seem to remember original iPhone users complaining when iOS 4 wouldn’t support their device, even though it was 3 years old at the time.
Posted on May 10, 2011 | 2:04 PM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
18 months is not a very long time since it’s from the date when the device is released and not when the customer purchases it.
Posted on May 10, 2011 | 2:06 PM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
But 18 months is probably the life of a device in the marketplace. I don’t think you can buy an original Droid anymore now that the Droid 2 is out. Nor can you buy an original Incredible now that the Incredible 2 is out.
So this seems more than fair. For the time the phone is out on market, it will be supported with updates. That just happens to be about 18 months.
No one wants a situation in which updates to their newer phones are taking longer because their waiting on updates to older and discontinued handsets to be completed.
Posted on May 10, 2011 | 3:48 PM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
What percentage of people (not readers of this website) actually have a phone contract less than 18 months?
Posted on May 10, 2011 | 3:58 PM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
18 months is more support than iPhones get. My 3G stopped getting updates after 3.1.4. I technicly updated to 4.2 eventually but those updates did nothing but make my 3G unusable due to lag (Apple didn’t even include the new ringtones!). Texting became a chore and i was constantly waiting on my phone. In fact i think i was happier on 3.1.4 than i was on 4.2. Its this kind of crippling of a phone that was working very smoothly and iTunes Dependency that made me switch to Android.
If they dont Read this website (or one like it) they probably dont care much for updates or have a dumb-phone. The OEM’s skins have made it easier than ever to hide the software version number, Meaning as long a the user cant tell theres a difference in the software of his/her EVO to any other HTC phone they dont really even know there running different versions.
Basically, 18 months of timely updates sounds better than none.
Posted on May 10, 2011 | 6:15 PM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
please end fragmentation andy rubin!
Posted on May 10, 2011 | 2:19 PM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
Typical Google. Announce things those are still being worked on.
Posted on May 10, 2011 | 2:21 PM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
Why not?
Posted on May 10, 2011 | 2:23 PM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
This is typical political Bull S**t. We all know good and well that the manufactures are lazy, and only focus teams of employees on new hardware they can make money with. Once the sale is made on a piece of hardware the profit ends for them. We are all acustom to Samsung, and its broken promises.
Posted on May 10, 2011 | 2:21 PM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt.
Samsung updates its’ handsets, American carriers block those updates.
Posted on May 10, 2011 | 2:27 PM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
And yet other manufacturers are able to update just fine on American carriers.
Posted on May 10, 2011 | 5:07 PM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
Really? How many handsets has Motorola promised updates for then never delivered?
Take WP7, how many weeks was it after MS rolled out the update that ATT finally allowed it?
How long did ATT block tethering on the iPhone?
Or how about Google blocking market access to HotSpot apps, seems to only be happening to branded devices.
Posted on May 10, 2011 | 8:42 PM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
lol….that first line totally cracked me up over here. no disrespect to Will though. He’s entitled to believe what he want
Posted on May 10, 2011 | 5:08 PM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
That’s actually a line from ol’ Abe Lincoln. One of my favorites.
Posted on May 10, 2011 | 8:44 PM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
Not true. A business is only going to do things that make them money in one way or another. If they don’t have any incentive to update, why do we currently see updates?
Posted on May 10, 2011 | 5:11 PM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
It would be so nice if they shortened the standard carrier contract to 18 months to match this.
Posted on May 10, 2011 | 2:25 PM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
All the devices should have the same software and compete on hardware. Enough skinning or at least allow us to turn it off.
Posted on May 10, 2011 | 2:27 PM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
All the devices should have the same software and compete on hardware. Enough skinning or at least allow us to turn it off.
Posted on May 10, 2011 | 2:27 PM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
This issue keeps me from buying new Android handset. It’s sad what Android has evolved into with its 8 to 10 different version numbers and skins and crapware.
Posted on May 10, 2011 | 2:31 PM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
So in the best case scenario, the companies will be obligated to support a device for 18 months, and the user is in a contract to use this device for 24 months? Great!
Posted on May 10, 2011 | 2:35 PM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
Given that Android release cycle is going on semi-annual schedule, those 18 months are actually 24 months of fresh versions.
Posted on May 10, 2011 | 3:28 PM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
It’s 18 months from release, not from when it’s replaced
Posted on May 10, 2011 | 3:52 PM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
Then you will benefit from the previous updates immediately. No loss. If your someone who buys a handset at the end of its life cycle at reduced price, you wont care anyway.
Posted on May 10, 2011 | 10:32 PM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
My thoughts exactly. This agreement is an excuse for each manufacturer to quit updating after 18 months.
And especially as several countries worldwide don’t receive the device at the time it is released to the public (for example the Motorola Droid/Milestone), this 18 months might be a lot shorter somewhere.
I’m not saying that every manufacturer will be a culprit, perhaps it really is a gentlemen’s agreement and they really mean that they will update for at least 18 months.
But then (and this is the other bad side of this coin) this means that every forthcoming version of Android will have to support 18 months old hardware without significant loss on the performance level. (And this rings especially true if you look at the many negative ratings of apps in the marketplace form users whose older hardware doesn’t deliver the punch to run the app smoothly.)
Posted on May 10, 2011 | 5:11 PM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
And the really sad part is that’s still better than anything Android is getting right now.
Posted on May 10, 2011 | 9:03 PM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
Or in the case of Rogers 30 months…
Posted on Jun 26, 2011 | 6:39 PM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
I am concerned on the back office dealings, but I understand considering the carriers are starting to hold weight too. They always have that dangling iPhone now to threaten since it works on other networks. A more cohesive sofware change is the only way to TRULY remove fragmentation.
Or they could be a bunch Dilberts screwin the sofware up for independents. Google keeps bending to the will of others a little too often for my comfort.
Posted on May 10, 2011 | 2:43 PM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
Well, I think that there are a couple of possible outcomes that may ensue:
1) Manufacturers stop making crappy phones that they would normally never support
2) Manufacturers definition of timely becomes a year
3) Manufacturers will stop skinning their devices to the degree that they are
4) Manufacturers will realize that being a part of this group of OEMs is not going to matter to 90% of people and decide to drop out of the group.
5) Manufacturers will claim that their old devices can’t support the new firmware
Posted on May 10, 2011 | 5:00 PM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
6) Make Windows Phones instead.
Posted on May 10, 2011 | 10:35 PM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
I think 1 major update will suffice for a 2 year contract and a bunch of small one to work out the bugs.
Posted on May 10, 2011 | 5:06 PM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
Yeah kill the carrier part of the equation.
Watching the Xperia X10 rollout of Eclair was painful. Slowly slowly getting let out by each carrier… or not at all by some… If Sony-Ericson could have just said “Everyone, here’s 2.1. Click to update”, that would have been at least a bit less pain.
Posted on May 10, 2011 | 8:02 PM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
Here’s an idea Google, force carriers to do something like bootcamp on the mac. There are two android versions, one that is stock and one that has all of your modifications. On the stock version, let the users do whatever they want, let them apply their own ROMs, let them root it, etc. On the other version, let the manufacturer mess it up as much as they want. One of the reasons manufacturers don’t want people to root and load ROMs is that the user might mess up his phone and want a warranty replacement. If you use this system, if somebody messes up their phone they can just boot back into the manufacturer version and wipe the other partition then reload another unmodified (besides the necessary modifications) ROM. Force them to update the unmodified version (or better yet, do something like windows phone where the hardware doesn’t matter as much so the updates can be pushed to everybody), and let them do whatever they want with the unmodified. This is a win win for everybody.
Posted on May 10, 2011 | 5:09 PM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
1. Google promises improvements to the update process
2. Android 3.1 released for 3G Xooms but not wifi Xooms
3. ?
4. ?
5. Profit
Posted on May 10, 2011 | 5:29 PM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
I think there needs to be a few more ???? in your post, no way Google can fix Android in two steps.
What i dont get is that Microsoft can push an Update to Every windows system in the world at the same time with little to no problems, but Google cant even push an update to two almost identical products at the same time.
Posted on May 10, 2011 | 6:01 PM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
yeah.windows phone updates hit no snags at all
-guy under a rock
Posted on May 10, 2011 | 6:19 PM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
He’s talking about Windows PCs.
Posted on May 10, 2011 | 9:02 PM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
You forgot “Google gives away unreleased Tab now not running the latest software”.
Posted on May 10, 2011 | 8:48 PM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
Heres how the OEM’s do it. If they really want there stupid skin on the device, let people upgrade to Gingerbread and make Sense, Touchwiz, Motoblur, and all the others a Launcher like program that sits on top of stock Android. Should allow most OEM’s to keep the Custom skins while giving consumers what they really want, Updates. I wouldn’t even care if it wasn’t removable like it is now, at least I wouldn’t be stuck on Froyo even though I have “The Worlds Most Powerful Smartphone”
Posted on May 10, 2011 | 5:59 PM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
Yup. Disconnect the Manufacturers stuff so it doesn’t have to be hardwired into the core OS. Use “drivers” for specific hardware… cameras and so forth.
Goog can compile core Android for the half dozen or so ARM variants, and directly update the user.
Posted on May 10, 2011 | 7:57 PM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
@pc_gamer:disqus
Been saying this for ages now – I agree totally.
Posted on May 11, 2011 | 9:35 AM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
18 Months makes no sense it should of been at least 24 months since most people buy their device with a 2 year contract. After 24 months is up to the consumer if he wants to stay with the current device but the consumer gets the final choice.
Posted on May 10, 2011 | 6:19 PM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
When is Google going to break through the carrier barrier?
Posted on May 10, 2011 | 7:46 PM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
They need to make skins more like add-ons where you can download them from the app store.
Posted on May 10, 2011 | 8:30 PM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
So no change then.
Posted on May 10, 2011 | 10:22 PM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
That’s one reason I have stayed away from android. I love the devices, but the fragmentation keeps me at bay. Hopefully this this will work out and sooner rather than later.
Posted on May 10, 2011 | 10:22 PM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
This is sad for us Canadians… We usualy get the phone 6 months after the US release and our contracts last 3 years. If you look at this without considering the fact that phones are subsedized beyond belief, they are essentially making 600-800$ pieces of electronic obsolete and vulnerable to security breaches 18 months after release.
Posted on May 11, 2011 | 8:14 AM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
many mite call me a pessimist (tho considering the disappointment in Google & Carriers currently, maybe not so many), but what I see eventually evolving from this is MFTRs and Carriers have the ultimate excuse to abandon your device after 18mo.s . However, during those first 18mo’s , theyll drag along their feet as usual in getting out the updates. This suggests absolutely nothing about how QUICKLY new versions of Android are suppose to hit devices.All those Samsung devices, Motorola devices were all eventually updated w froyo, and that was still within the 18mo window. Without a mandate on how QUICKLY new Android OS should roll out by, this means absolutely nothing to the end consumer, and only leaves them with more to worry about whether they’ll get the latest update or not before that 18mo window closes. And who will be the enforcer for mftrs and carriers to fulfill their promise, what is the penalty, and what is our consolation for buying into a longterm (yes, 2yrs is VERY long in tech yrs) contract with a device that we were promised would be supported?We sign a two year contract and they continue to sell these devices 2 yrs after the original release date, how does it make sense to not to provide uptodate timely support of qualifying software updates to the product for at least 3 yrs? I would encouraged anyone at their most frustrated point to file BBB/Attorney General/FCC reports against both the carriers and mftrs for dragging their feet on updates and declaring end-of-life on products less than 2 yrs old.
Posted on May 12, 2011 | 10:15 AM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
Google is smart. Now all they have to do is not update anything for 17 months post deployment, Require the OEM roll one update per device in their jungle of fragmentation, and DMS the device in the sunset and cash the checks from poor android users.
As long as their users have flash movies, they will be happy.
Posted on May 31, 2011 | 12:05 PM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
android is the best, its easy to use for face book, twitter and you tube, that why i want to connect my sony ericson in my twitter
Posted on Jul 14, 2011 | 12:52 PM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
How about this for a new rule:
Android devices must be released with the latest version of the operating system that is available at the time of release or be updated to that version within three months (90 days) to ensure a common experience for Android users. Any device no longer capable of running new versions of the Android OS should be considered End of Life.
Failure to comply will result in predetermined licensing fees to be paid for each device sold that is not in compliance. Alternatively, consumers with valid proof of purchase may be issued refund for half of the device cost or credit towards half of the purchase price of an Android device with the newest software and an MSRP equal to or less than that of the device purchased that failed to meet standards set forth above.
OK, I am done having fun for now!
Posted on Jul 27, 2011 | 6:29 PM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
whatever happened to this?
Posted on Sep 21, 2011 | 5:48 PM EDT reply Recommend Flag actions
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