S3 Graphics suffered a big defeat on Monday, when it saw the US International Trade Commission dismiss its patent complaint against Apple. Today things are looking no rosier, as HTC has announced it intends to "reevaluate" its decision to purchase S3. Back in July, only a few days after S3 won the first round / ruling in its ITC battle against Apple over image compression in Mac OS X, HTC said it would acquire the small company in an effort to gain access to a portfolio of 235 patents and patent applications. If it wasn't evident already, HTC's prime reason for buying S3 was in order to gain IP leverage over Apple, with Peter Chou explicitly stating that S3's intellectual property would be complementary to HTC's technology leadership. Now that the ITC no longer considers those patents to have been infringed by Apple's software, however, HTC's valuation of the synergistic benefits appears to have diminished.
HTC will 'reevaluate' acquisition of S3 after failed ITC patent claim against Apple

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Wow, fail.
Posted on Nov 23, 2011 | 8:23 AM EST reply Recommend (5) Flag actions
I kind of forgot about HTC for a bit there.
Posted on Nov 23, 2011 | 8:24 AM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
For the picture, you should really be showing a bunch of Android phones. The lawsuit and S3 has nothing to do Windows Phone 7.
Posted on Nov 23, 2011 | 8:32 AM EST reply Recommend (8) Flag actions
Neither has it anything to do with Android…
Posted on Nov 23, 2011 | 8:33 AM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
Actually, because the lawsuits between Apple and HTC are about technologies and not ‘look and feel’ of the devices, plus a few targeted at HTC Sense, it is pretty much all to do with Android.
Microsoft cover HTC from Apple lawsuits as part of the Windows Phone licensing. Google do not with Android.
Posted on Nov 23, 2011 | 9:21 AM EST reply Recommend (9) Flag actions
It’s most definitely all about HTC. Unlike MS vs Moto and MS vs B&N, Apple’s issues are all about OEM device skins.
Microsoft has Apple by the balls, when it comes to licensing so all Apple’s “inventions” are licensed with WP7.
Posted on Nov 23, 2011 | 10:12 AM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
I would guess that Apple has a lot of those patents Microsoft is using against Android cross licensed when they had their “patent disputes” ;) in the late 90s
Posted on Nov 23, 2011 | 10:55 AM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
And it’s the other way around too. Apple gets a license for all of MSFT’s inventions too. That Swipe-to-gallery from camera in iOS5? Microsoft has a patent on that, and it’s been in WP7 since 1.0
Posted on Nov 23, 2011 | 12:50 PM EST reply Recommend (6) Flag actions
Not 1.0, but 7.0
Posted on Nov 23, 2011 | 6:22 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
How is that patentable?!
Posted on Nov 23, 2011 | 7:48 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
How is a rectangle patentable?!
Posted on Nov 23, 2011 | 8:49 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
How is a screen lock patentable?
Posted on Nov 24, 2011 | 7:07 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I’ll bet you dollars to donuts that if HTC weren’t making Android phones, Apple wouldn’t be suing them, meaning HTC wouldn’t be trying to get their hands on S3 patents.
Posted on Nov 23, 2011 | 10:58 AM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
It’s a reminder that Microsoft looks after all of its licences.
It’s one of the good things about paying for a $10-15 Windows Phone licence.
Microsoft also does the right thing by its customers when it comes to updates. Although I might be biased because I just got the Internet Sharing functionality added to my Mozart.
Posted on Nov 23, 2011 | 7:20 PM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
This is what I would like to see google do. right now, they are just a barking dog, commenting here, snarking there, but ultimately, no balls to back it up.
the obvious solution is for Google to offer 2 solutions;
1. Free. you are on your own.
2. $15 Android license. Google will indemnify you.
My guess, and it looks more correct every passing day, is that #2 will never come to pass. Once they do, the tech they appropriated in building Android will come crashing down upon their heads via lawsuits from Apple, MS, Oracle, probably others. That is not a war it can win even if it threw all it’s billions at it.
Posted on Nov 23, 2011 | 10:05 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
All those phones are strikingly similar to the original iPhone design.
Posted on Nov 24, 2011 | 2:59 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
HTC is a joke. So they asked S3 to sue Apple and win before they would acquire them? They were so sure that they were going to win that they announced the deal months ago.
Say what you want but Apple has been suing them with patents that they developed and currently exist in their products.
Posted on Nov 23, 2011 | 8:34 AM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
Isn’t that actually quite smart? Now they don’t have to spent money on patents that would have been useless…
Posted on Nov 23, 2011 | 8:37 AM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
They make be smart in this instance but it doesn’t stop them from being a joke. Does this situation not make you laugh?
Posted on Nov 23, 2011 | 8:54 AM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
Considering both companies’ biggest shareholder is the same person, there is no joke there.
Posted on Nov 23, 2011 | 10:13 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
HTC being overly confident and short-sighted regarding the outcome? Sure.
Apple’s patents are ‘home grown’ and are thus better or more valid than purchased ones? No, don’t be childish.
Patents are commodities that are traded to gain leverage, or allow building on foundations laid by others. Applying human concepts like ‘made by me, used by me!’ to for-profit companies is flawed because everyone does it. Do you think Lebron James is less of a player just for leaving the team that founded him?
Posted on Nov 23, 2011 | 8:46 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I’m not arguing this in court. I’m arguing this as a point of morality. Apple has not been suing other people for patents they acquired. They’ve been suing from patents they developed and used. This is what the patent system should be about.
What relevance does LeBron James have in this? The Cavaliers did not create LeBron James in a tube nor is he doing anything that others haven’t done before.
Posted on Nov 23, 2011 | 9:00 AM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
“Apple has not been suing other people for patents they acquired.”
Ummm… sorry to burst your bubble, but yes they have! In fact nearly every tech company has at one time initiated a lawsuit over a patent they acquired! It’s just standard practice.
Posted on Nov 23, 2011 | 9:25 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Is this Narnia? Do we accuse without any evidence or links and therefore it becomes reality? I need to wake up from reality to my dream.
Posted on Nov 23, 2011 | 9:38 AM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
Apple acquired FingerWorks in 2005, subsequently used all their multi-touch technology in iOS, and then initiated lawsuits relating to multi-touch.
I could give you countless more examples like this but its not needed. If someone copied Siri, which Apple acquired, they would sue the infringer.
Don’t be so naive as to think Apple invents everything they do from scratch…
Posted on Nov 23, 2011 | 9:52 AM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
You did not give any examples or links.
Posted on Nov 23, 2011 | 10:46 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I’m no patent lawyer or expert, I can’t just provide you exact court documents and patent filings to prove to you. And I’m not about to spend the next hour+ of my life researching either. See Cloudgazer’s post for an actual example…
Posted on Nov 23, 2011 | 11:07 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Apple’s patents are related to the implementation of multitouch. Pinch to zoom for example.
Posted on Nov 24, 2011 | 3:02 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Apple is asserting patent 6956564 against HTC. That patent was acquired from BT.
Posted on Nov 23, 2011 | 10:26 AM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
I’ve looked through the ten pages of the patent lawsuit you provided. I could not see the patent no. you provided. Can you tell me where?
Posted on Nov 23, 2011 | 10:51 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Page 3/10 – no.7 “Nature of the Action” – line 4. The fourth patent listed is 564.
Posted on Nov 23, 2011 | 11:09 AM EST reply Recommend (3) Flag actions
^^ what he said
Anyway it’s a pretty key requirement that you should be able to assert patents that you purchase or there would be no point purchasing them. And it’s a pretty key requirement that patents be transferrable, or small inventors would often be unable to gain any value from their inventions at all.
Posted on Nov 24, 2011 | 1:12 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I’m eagerly anticipating poisonpatch’s reply. But I don’t expect it. His tribalism is too entrenched, and he will internalise any facts that challenge his worldview and biases by discrediting them, or simply not pretending to see it. Cognitive Dissonance at its finest.
Posted on Nov 24, 2011 | 5:21 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Applying a human concept like ‘morality’ to a company like Apple is childish and naive. These are multi-billion dollar companies in the business of making as much money as they can, while they can. Don’t have any delusions about it.
Posted on Nov 24, 2011 | 5:18 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
So Apple didn’t get all their touch screen tech from buying Fingerworks, nice of you to edit history so badly.
Posted on Nov 23, 2011 | 9:21 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Nice skipping half of his post … so it is fine that HTC is using other companies to sue Apple even before it acquires them with technology they are not using in any of their products. Android fanboys are desperate, this is clearly unfair to both S3 and Apple yet you are still in denial siding with assholes like HTC.
Posted on Nov 23, 2011 | 9:36 AM EST reply Recommend (5) Flag actions
No, HTC are not, by far, the assholes in this industry. Only one that embarks in exclusivity contracts and manipulates the component market just to block competitors, THOSE are assholes.
Posted on Nov 23, 2011 | 6:58 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Uh what else can Apple do when everyone keeps ripping their designs off? Have you seen the latest Nook Touch? It looks like a giant, fat iPod touch. Even with the single home button at the bottom center.
Posted on Nov 24, 2011 | 3:03 AM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
I don’t know, they had the touch screen Newton…
Posted on Nov 23, 2011 | 7:21 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
if you are going to be spending large cash, you have every right and responsibility to ensure that what you are paying for is indeed of value.
It’s a business deal. If your property proves that it has little value, you won’t see a single cent.
Posted on Nov 23, 2011 | 10:01 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Ha f*ckin ha!
Posted on Nov 23, 2011 | 8:34 AM EST reply Recommend (6) Flag actions
Oh and in answer to the cow question:
Guess there’s always hamburgers!
Posted on Nov 23, 2011 | 8:36 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I wonder what this will mean for S3TC and linux graphics drivers.
Posted on Nov 23, 2011 | 9:09 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
My link seems to have disappeared, and there’s no edit function! http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTAxNDE
Posted on Nov 23, 2011 | 9:10 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Ouch … that’s quite a cynical move on the part of HTC.
Posted on Nov 23, 2011 | 9:14 AM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
I actually remember (barely) when S3 was a viable player in the graphics chip space… and then Nvidia destroyed them. They became Sonicblue and tried to compete with Tivo.. then they failed at that, spun off the graphics business again and hobbled along trying to re-define low-end discreet graphics. Obviously a complete failure.
Someone needs to just put them out of their misery. Maybe HP will buy them, load them and WEbOS into a boxcar, fill it with cement and send it to the bottom of the bearing sea.
Posted on Nov 23, 2011 | 9:16 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
They had pretty decent ideas back in the day, they were the first to use texture compression and T&L, both of which became industry standars after few final tweaks. Before intel took over they were the king of integrated graphic chips in both laptops and desktops. It is sad that they have no real future, S3 was one of the giants in the 90s.
Posted on Nov 23, 2011 | 9:42 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
smooth move HTC … well not really, you are assholes and i hope this will damage any of your future patent related wanna-buys
Posted on Nov 23, 2011 | 9:28 AM EST reply Recommend (3) Flag actions
So I guess a few new spots on the HTC legal team opened up.
Posted on Nov 23, 2011 | 10:39 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
At least they didn’t acquire them. Otherwise they would look more like jerks than they already are.
Posted on Nov 23, 2011 | 10:55 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Browsing the Verge feed on Pulse, the truncated headline read HTC will ‘reevaluate’ acquisition of…
I could have sworn it was going to say “Beats” next.
Posted on Nov 23, 2011 | 12:17 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
HTC didn’t buy beats, they took a (majority?) stake in them.
Posted on Nov 23, 2011 | 12:56 PM EST via mobile reply Recommend Flag actions
First Beats and now this?
This is why I paint a rosier image of Samsung since most of their parts are manufactured and developed by themselves
Posted on Nov 23, 2011 | 5:26 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
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