Thierry Breton, CEO of French IT company Atos, says he hasn't sent an internal business email for three years, and now he's making his employees follow suit by replacing internal email with instant messaging as well as a collaborative "Facebook-style" interface. In a Wall Street Journal profile on the numerous ways Atos is shaking up its business model, Breton says he'd rather people visit, call, or even text message him rather than send emails, which he believes "cannot replace the spoken word." Breton's plan is to have his employees off email in 18 months, and has statistics to back up his decision: a study deemed only 15 percent of internal emails at Atos "useful." The company employs over 74,000 people in 42 countries and is reportedly the largest IT firm in Europe — a move this bold for a company this size is not something you see every day. We'll see if Breton can stick to his word.
CEO of Europe's largest IT company plans to ban employees from using internal email

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Too bad Google Wave hasn’t taken off. Because it would have been a great replacement for email….
Posted on Nov 30, 2011 | 10:45 AM EST reply Recommend (6) Flag actions
This sounds like Dunder Mifflin Infinity. Now just waiting on the sex offenders…
Posted on Nov 30, 2011 | 6:15 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
I dream of a future where a company’s Google+ brand page has nested Circles for various departments/personnel – these Circles would handle all levels of intracompany messaging, meetings are conducted via Hangouts, collaboration is handled through shared Docs and Calendar, and the CEO raises morale by posting a YouTube Video/Google Music Track of the Day (YTVOTD/GMTOTD).
Someday, someday…
Posted on Dec 01, 2011 | 11:53 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
That’s not a statistic. That’s an opinion.
Posted on Nov 30, 2011 | 10:46 AM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
No, it’s a statistic about an opinion. If he said that he feels that 15% of his workforce thinks that email is useful, that would be a different story.
Posted on Nov 30, 2011 | 10:55 AM EST reply Recommend (4) Flag actions
Did you graduate high school?
Posted on Nov 30, 2011 | 11:08 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
How do you send confidential documents without email? Print them out and hand them out? It seems like as long as you need to send files to someone, email is the best option.
And yes, some things shouldn’t be kept on the cloud.
Posted on Nov 30, 2011 | 10:58 AM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
Fax them.
Posted on Nov 30, 2011 | 10:59 AM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
Email is not a file distribution system. This is why end users wind up with 10gb exchange inboxes that their machines and and servers can’t handle. Not to mention corruption issues on the Hard Disk losing the entire lot.
Posted on Nov 30, 2011 | 11:48 AM EST via mobile reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
But they’re still used as such, because getting a file easily from one place to another over the internet is still a problem that hasn’t been solved.
http://xkcd.com/949/
Posted on Nov 30, 2011 | 12:17 PM EST reply Recommend (3) Flag actions
Trust me I know all to well that people use Email as a file transfer media. People understand email.. hmm well people know how to use email to a degree. If I click here I can share anything!!! They don’t want to hear or learn about file sizes. They don’t want to understand that a cell phone cannot send a 220 Mb 15 minute 1080P video over flaky 3g cellular via email. Removing email from being an option in the first place should assist in promoting a good solution to file sharing. If tomorrow we wake up and there is a brilliant solution to this, people will still want to email the file for a good decade or two, before the AOL’ers will get it.
Posted on Nov 30, 2011 | 12:54 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
How do you fathom that those confidential documents that you’re emailing around aren’t “in the cloud”? The moment you send your attachment, it’s now stored on a company mail server, which is your local “cloud”.
So long as you’re sending files over your company’s network, it really doesn’t matter what you use to do it (email, internal Facebook-like thing, document server, etc.). That’s really only a problem if you’re letting these confidential documents go out of your local network unencrypted with your own encryption keys (e.g. – VPN, PGP, etc.).
Heck, even Dropbox is perfectly secure if you use an encrypted container, like a Truecrypt volume, which you could then distribute the keys to internally.
Posted on Nov 30, 2011 | 11:59 AM EST reply Recommend (3) Flag actions
Finally thank you. External cloud =/ internal cloud
Posted on Nov 30, 2011 | 4:26 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Do you mean there have never been confidential documents before e-mail was invented?
Posted on Nov 30, 2011 | 2:57 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
File sharing software like Share Point. How many files do you think the Verge writers send via email? I would say not too many since they use Google Docs
Posted on Nov 30, 2011 | 5:11 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
That desktop looks familiar. AND EMAIL ACCOUNTS.
Posted on Nov 30, 2011 | 11:14 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Fixing an employment problem with tech is destined for success. Mark my words this will end well.
Posted on Nov 30, 2011 | 11:58 AM EST reply Recommend (3) Flag actions
I’m curious about that facebook-style interface. Is that internally-developed, or a white-label of something like campfire? I’ve found myself using facebook groups and the like as replacement for email because of the threading and documents and photos. It actually works really well, if you’re willing to get passed the unprofessionalness of using facebook
Posted on Nov 30, 2011 | 12:15 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
And the privacy issues.
Posted on Nov 30, 2011 | 12:16 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I’m a student, so generally people have no problem friend-requesting each other. But I could see in a work context it might be a problem
Posted on Nov 30, 2011 | 3:54 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Situations emails are good for (personal preference from IT perspective)-
1) addressing large number of people (out of necessity, not stupidity).
2) when immediate response is not required from the recipient.
3) regular status updates about issues.
4) gentle reminders (sending IMs for minor items seems too much to handle)
5) “CC” is a good feature when used properly. Its a subtle way to let people know stuff even if they are not the direct participants in a conversation.
I am not sure how any of these can be replaced by IMs or phone calls or Facebook style thingamajigs.
Also, as per the “survey” there are 15% useful emails. That means a large number of your employees don’t know shit about using the medium.
Instead of just flat out killing it, they could have done better by properly and regularly educating the employees. If entirely necessary, track usage and recognize people who use less storage.
Its one thing to make a bold decision, its another to do it just because one or two guys at the top think its the right thing.
Posted on Nov 30, 2011 | 12:33 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
I’m thinking they will eventually end up with it still around for that 15%.
Posted on Nov 30, 2011 | 4:15 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
Probably they’ll end up with more even than that, but they’ll get rid of a lot of the auto-generated crap that large firms accrete.
Posted on Dec 01, 2011 | 11:40 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
that’s nothing else than the stupid social enterprise overhype fuelled by Salesforce.com to sell their social-tools aware CRM Service. This is currently going through the minds of all major CxOs, even for Enterprise 2 Enterprise communication. A waste of time (broadcast-chatting) and a lack of documentation will be the result. It may make sense in Business2Consumer/SMB.
Posted on Nov 30, 2011 | 1:09 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
Anyone know what mail app is in that screenshot?
Posted on Nov 30, 2011 | 1:10 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Sparrow for Mac. I use it and highly recommend it over Mail.app.
Posted on Nov 30, 2011 | 3:25 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
Thanks. I downloaded it and am poking around.
Posted on Nov 30, 2011 | 7:18 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
hmmm, why do they offer e-mail contacting then? http://atos.net/en-us/about_us/contact_us/
Posted on Nov 30, 2011 | 1:14 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
The CEO says he is only trying to reduce internal email. External email is unavoidable in his opinion.
Posted on Nov 30, 2011 | 4:05 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
look at these contradictory blog-entries: http://blog.atos.net/2011/04/14/let%E2%80%99s-get-one-of-those-social-network-jobbies%E2%80%9D/
Posted on Nov 30, 2011 | 1:18 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I think it’s arrogant for IT workers or IT companies to (if they do) assume that the ‘lay’ majority, including company workers, will find other alternatives more useful or efficient.
Email is indispensable, and other technologies don’t come near for many users and use cases:
1) A local government Social care worker sends me a care assessment about someone I’m a carer for, to complete. We don’t have any other formal relationship. She simply has my contact details. I might be a rare PC user who goes to an internet cafe once a month, or on demand. She can phone to let me know it’s sent. I can reply, with comments, directly via email. Done. Alternatives? Waiting weeks for the post? Less secure, and I may even be overseas…
2) I send some photos, in my own time, to my grandmother overseas far away, in a low income country, she receives them, and sends me back a letter, in her own time. No need to have hi-tech technology, membership of any social networks.
3) I lose touch with a friend/acquaintance/relative – they always lose their mobile, their landline and address have changed, and they’re not on a social network. Email.
Almost everyone I know has an email address. Most non-IT people I know have only that, plus possibly Facebook and/or MMS (which probably won’t work if they are poor, have older handsets). Info sent via social networks probably gets lost if they don’t check much.
Posted on Nov 30, 2011 | 3:02 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I guess the meaning of the word ‘internal’ pretty much passed you by eh?
Posted on Dec 01, 2011 | 7:06 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Further, like it or not, people, like me, use their email inboxes and accounts as a data store – one place they can back-up and search easily for anything – contacts, emails, chat history logs, pager messages, task lists, facebook messages, SMS messages synced from a phone, photos and links to photos, call log from a landline. It’s flexible. The email user can operate from a cybercafe, a smartphone, or a dial-up connection. The user can choose how to tag/filter their emails, and can include RSS feeds and social network feeds if they choose.
Rather than abandoning email, I and many other users, including workers, want any additional technologies in combination with email to make it more efficient (i.e. file storage, good searching and tagging), and more secure.
Posted on Nov 30, 2011 | 3:07 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I used to work there. First thing installed and configured: Outlook. Keep talkin’.
Posted on Nov 30, 2011 | 3:16 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I like his thinking. Email has devolved into a bunch of CC:all cover-your-ass type communication.
Posted on Nov 30, 2011 | 5:30 PM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
This CEO forgets that email also provides a chain of accountability. Also it provides a chain to identify where problems and arose. Email is very useful even if it isn’t ‘useful’ because it is useful.
In any event, other methods of communications are potentially more distracting. It’s a Channel of communications. The more you have the better the more ppl u have. The biggest problem in business internally is miscommunication and / or things unsaid… He said, she said. Email remedies that. Phone calls reinforce the solution. IM help. face to face helps.
Posted on Dec 01, 2011 | 6:57 AM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
And I thought SAP was Europes largest :/
Posted on Dec 01, 2011 | 7:31 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
SAP is bigger by revenue, Atos has more employees I believe.
Posted on Dec 01, 2011 | 10:41 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Email is not evil, it’s just not used properly by many areas since every employer assumes workers can use it and don’t need training. In my opinion, on effective internal and external communication, the most training Dollars and Euros should be spent, regardless on the form of media. Why would one think if email doesn’t work in your company IM or Chatter will?
Posted on Dec 01, 2011 | 10:45 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Because people use them differently- the communication medium shapes user behaviour and expectations.
Posted on Dec 01, 2011 | 11:44 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
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