I can't hear you, you're not famous
In the virtual reality described by Debord, we gain satisfaction from accumulating merchandise. "[T]he consumer," he says, meaning me (and you), "is filled with religious fervor for the sovereign liberty of the commodities. Waves of enthusiasm for a given product, supported and spread by all the media of communication, are thus propagated with lightning speed. A style of dress emerges from a film; a magazine promotes night spots which launch various clothing fads. Just when the mass of commodities slides toward puerility, the puerile itself becomes a special commodity; this is epitomized by the gadget."
There are not nearly enough ways to make a pair of quality headphones, for instance, to justify having hundreds of headphone lines on the market. But if Debord is right, an ever-increasing number of headphones are necessary to ensure that the Spectacle keeps growing. How is it that companies keep creating demand for things we don't need? Perhaps by tapping into the religious impulse I noted before. Marketing is designed to create enthusiasm for a product "similar to the ecstasies of the convulsions and miracles of the old religious fetishism."
Since modern society is dominated by the banal, explains Debord, the celebrity embodies the role that we could see as possible for ourselves.
"Being a star means specializing in the seemingly lived; the star is the object of identification with the shallow seeming life that has to compensate for the fragmented productive specializations which are actually lived. Celebrities exist to act out various styles of living and viewing society unfettered, free to express themselves globally. They embody the inaccessible result of social labor by dramatizing its by-products magically projected above it as its goal: power and vacations, decision and consumption, which are the beginning and end of an undiscussed process. In one case state power personalizes itself as a pseudo-star; in another a star of consumption gets elected as a pseudo-power over the lived. But just as the activities of the star are not really global, they are not really varied."
If society is a huge, dehumanizing spectacle, and we’re no longer able to enjoy our lives, we'll need a celebrity to enjoy our lives for us. A company will hire someone that is famous enough to cut through the static of the spectacle, and show us what we can aspire to — if we buy whatever it is that’s being advertised.
The day after the outbreak of Bieber fever I returned to the general vicinity, where I found another potential mini-riot. The mob was waiting for Dennis Rodman, star of Celebrity Rehab with Dr. Drew and former professional wrestler, who was coming on-site to represent a company called Paltalk.
Paltalk, in case you’ve never heard of it, is a "freemium" service that looks like a cross between Skype and IRC, circa 1998. It features a selection of chat rooms organized by topic and a video conferencing interface that looks like it could do double duty as some sort of low rent cybersex platform.
It wasn’t until after the event that I remembered why I knew the brand name: In March 2007, an electrical engineer in the UK named Kevin Whitrick killed himself by hanging. The 42-year old father of two had been chatting up a storm in what's been characterized as a Paltalk "insult" room, and the suicide was broadcast on a live webcam over the service, to the shock — and even encouragement — of its users. The company is also known as something of a patent troll, having settled out of court (for an undisclosed sum) with Microsoft after suing for $90 million in 2009, over a patent it had reportedly purchased for less than $200,000. "The parties have settled the case, and Paltalk is quite pleased with the outcome," a lawyer with the unfortunate name Max Tribble told a Bloomberg reporter at the time.
On a large display in the rear of the booth, an example video / chat session is in full swing. In the "Subculture: International Meet People" room, they're wondering if "Rodman hit that" ("that" being the company spokesperson) and complaining about the server lag. Meanwhile Jordan, one of The Verge video team, and myself are among those pressed up against the booth, along with a number of the same press photographers and camera people we've been running into all week. The guy on my left is a bitter old network news cameraman, and he smells like booze, or piss, or both.
Eventually the CEO takes the floor, calling Paltalk "the real-time social network." Someone asks: "Why Dennis Rodman?"
"He's colorful, he's a world traveler," and he is apparently a huge fan of the service, which he uses to talk to his loved ones while he's traveling the world and being colorful.
As the appointed time nears — and passes — the average-looking people in the video chat are replaced by pretty girls, presumably representatives of the "Internet Meet People" subculture (and who look, to my untrained eye, like they’ve arrived mail order from Nikolaev, the Ukranian "City of Brides"). Eventually (fifteen or twenty minutes late; blame the Las Vegas traffic) Dennis Rodman appears. This is one of those odd "CES moments" we experience at least once every year, but we never really get to share with our readers: in this case, hundreds of tech journalists stunned into silence by someone they've only ever seen on TV. Indeed, watching the man and his minders walk silently through the crowd, the only noise being the shuttering of cameras, was a very surreal experience. Rodman was wearing some sort of U.S. currency-themed sports jacket, a hat that said "playboy," and a silk scarf. After a pained attempt at dialogue between the company rep and Rodman (who was difficult to hear, both because he has a low speaking voice and because the sole PA was a single, low-wattage, powered speaker) the floor was open to questions. It had already been established during the presentation that the athlete is also a geek who loves nothing more than catching up with friends and family on the company's Firetalk VOIP app, so as you'd have probably guessed, among the first things asked was whether his preference was iOS or Android. This is, after all, a press event staged by — and for — geeks.
"So, Dennis? iOS or Android?"
Silence.
Eventually, Rodman tried to explain that he didn't really have an answer, and the explanation came out in a series of hesitations and half-words. I felt bad for him. The next question, "what kind of smartphone do you have?" was met by more silence. The spokesperson moved on to something like "how does it feel to be in the Basketball Hall of Fame?" and he explained that he didn't really follow the sport, or care for it all that much.
In case the event wasn't surreal enough, it was at this time that Andy Dick pushed his way past me and approached the crowded booth. He almost didn't make into the spotlight, however: both company employees and members of the press tried to block his path. One photographer even grabbed hold of his arm.
"Hey," I said, making what I thought was a pretty good joke. "Let him go. He's a celebrity!"
The aromatic cameraman in front of me replied, without missing a beat: "He ain't no celebrity, he's Andy Dick."
Of course Andy Dick is a celebrity, by the very definition of the word — he’s just not anywhere near the top tier. You could probably have figured this out yourself without doing any math, but just to be certain I enlisted the help of my colleague and cohort, Ross Miller. The "Celebrity Analysis Worksheet" (or CAW) that he whipped up in Google Docs is based on a paper by Eric Schulman, PhD. "Measuring Fame Quantitatively: What Does it Take to Make the 'A' List?" appeared in Annals of Improbable Research in 2006. In it, the author proposes a method — involving Google search results and a baseline equivalent to the number of hits for the search term "Monica Lewinsky," whom he considered the quintessential B-lister — for determining where people fit on the A-list to H-list scale.
The one major change we made to the scale was to leave Lewinsky out of it altogether and instead calibrate to Snooki, who in our eyes signified the ultimate C-lister. She’s certainly not on the B-list — although a very heated debate minutes before a recent Verge podcast highlighted the fact that there is room for debate on the matter — so we decided to take the word of Advertising Age (September 22, 2010) and place her squarely in the "C" camp.
According to Schulman, an astronomer by day, one could look at Hollywood stars the way we look at, you know, actual stars:
"[H]uman responses to stimuli are not linear. For example, a first magnitude star is 2.5 times brighter than a second magnitude star, which is 2.5 times brighter than a third magnitude star, and so on (Pogson 1856). Such a relationship is called logarithmic. Many scientists since the late 19th century have believed that the responses of our senses of sight, hearing, smell, taste, and touch are logarithmic (e.g., Fechner 1860). In this paper we propose that the Weber-Fechner Law of human perception also applies to fame, such that people we perceive as 'A' List Celebrities are on average ten times more famous than people we perceive as 'B' List Celebrities, who are on average ten times more famous than people we perceive as 'C' List Celebrities, and so on."
There was also an equation involved:
fame(dBLw) = 10 log [fame(Lw)]
The "dBLw" refers to a "logarithmic international standard unit of fame." When plugging the number of search results each celeb received, we were able to place each person’s fame into some perspective.
From my vantage point, probably the biggest name at CES, from an angle of pure "star power" (and situational weirdness) was Justin Bieber. According to the CAW, Bieber was the only real A-lister on the scene, with a 7.43 dBLw (the A-list consists of those with a +5 dBLw and above). The B-list (between -5 and +5 dBLw) is mostly where you see the folks that appear on corporate keynotes, such as Will.I.Am (4.43), Will Smith (-1.36), and Kelly Clarkson (0.13). There were also a couple headphone impresarios thrown in for good measure: 50 Cent (2.40) and Ludacris (-0.27).
The C-List, however, is where most of your celebrity-corporate crossover occurs, with Snooki (-5.07), Dennis Rodman (-12.06), and Verdine White, the original bass player from Earth, Wind & Fire.
And for my old friend Andy Dick? His dBLw is somewhere around -15.61, just placing him in the upper reaches of the D-list.
Another way to put things into perspective is to look at the amount of money that celebrities make for personal appearances. Generally, a company will go through a speakers bureau (such as All American Speakers or Celebrity Talent Promotions) to book someone for their corporate retreat or to hang out at their booth and sign autographs during a trade show like CES. These companies act as middlemen, but if you give them a call they’ll give you a general price-range for your celeb of choice.
According to the New York Daily News, this time two years ago, Snooki was receiving up to $7,500 for personal appearances. This cut-rate asking price wouldn’t last for long, however. Two years ago, OK! reported that "[b]efore Snookie was punched in the face on camera she was the cheapest Jersey Shore member making $2,000 an appearance. But after, she became the most expensive — $10,000 an appearance!" That was just the beginning, however. According to multiple outlets, the reality TV star went on to receive $32,000 to appear at Rutgers last spring (that's $2,000 more than Maya Angelou earned for delivering the school's 2011 commencement). Of course, this is small money compared to funny guys like Jerry Seinfeld or former UK Prime Minister Tony Blair, who will cost you well over $200,000; but it does make getting Dennis Rodman for $20,000 or Andy Dick for $10,000 seem absolutely thrifty in comparison. If you’re looking to put together a celebrity panel on a budget, you could get former Black Panther Bobby Seale, James "The Amazing" Randi, and the comedy duo of Rabbi Bob Alper & Ahmed Ahmed, who bill themselves as "One Arab. One Jew. One Stage. Two Very Funny Guys!" in toto for half the price the diminutive headphone baroness demands.

Headphones are the new perfume, in that every celeb wants his or her own.
This trend can be traced back at least as far as the 2008 Consumer Electronics Show, when Beats By Dr. Dre was first announced. The unholy spawn of producer / rapper Dr. Dre and Yancy Street thug Jimmy Iovine, Beats were, until this year, manufactured and distributed by Monster (formerly Monster Cable Products). Such luminaries as Lady Gaga, P. Diddy, and Justin Bieber have their own designs, and the template is being repeated by Chris "Ludacris" Bridges (Soul), Snooki by Nicole Polizzi (iHip), 50 Cent (Street by 50) and many more.
Not to be left in the dust, the newly single Monster held a press conference on CES day zero. Monster, aside from its former partnership with Dr. Dre, is known for a couple things: frivolous lawsuits levied at parties using the word "monster," including Monster Mini Golf, the movie Monsters, Inc., and a CEO, Noel Lee, who cruises into his press conference on a Segway with gold rims — or, at least, gold rim-themed wheels.
Among the headphones, Lee introduced a home power management solution, a portable speaker, and SSD drives. Of course, no one came to this presser for the SSD drives, nor for the models who were vogueing up and down the aisles, showing off the company’s latest new products. As Basil Kronfli, a UK-based mobile writer noted as we were waiting in line, "[the press] are here for the celebrities, not the HDMI cables." The "stars" on hand that day ranged from rapper / actor Xzibit to the aforementioned Verdine White.
"Perhaps the most compelling reason to juxtapose brands with celebrities is that much-admired characteristics may transfer to products they endorse." That’s a choice quote from something called "Endorsement Practice: How Agencies Select Spokespeople" by B. Zafer Erdogan and Tanya Drollinger (Journal of Advertising Research, December 2008). What that means, essentially, is that when a company sells headphones associated with Curtis "50 Cent" Jackson, the qualities associated with him, such as those of the general, all-around badass, become magically transferred to the headphones. And hopefully, if I start sporting those headphones, some of those properties become associated with me. This is almost common sense, and it’s the same reason that kids in high school wear Marilyn Manson t-shirts before going on their Columbine-esque killing sprees. To me, it sounds like superstition, another way for companies to hit you in the lizard brain.
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The the* proofread.
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 3:58 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Thanks, fixed.
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 4:05 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I like when people write long, cool, thoughtful articles like this. Good job
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 4:06 PM EST reply Recommend (11) Flag actions
We all know it was Joanna Stern spreading her Bieber-mania.
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 4:08 PM EST reply Recommend (32) Flag actions
False
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 11:10 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I love the ominous music on the video.
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 4:09 PM EST reply Recommend (4) Flag actions
Jesus. Way to start out with a headline about Snooki and end up at a deep, well-written article about the nature of consumerism and celebrity. I love the Verge, you guys.
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 4:09 PM EST reply Recommend (21) Flag actions
The word “Snooki” being in the title actually push me away from this article, but I’m glad I eventually read it.
Posted on Jan 22, 2012 | 7:03 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
Please use a more attractive photo of Snooki.
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 4:11 PM EST reply Recommend (4) Flag actions
is there such a thing that exists?
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 4:17 PM EST reply Recommend (25) Flag actions
I think Snooki is adorbs.
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 4:18 PM EST reply Recommend (6) Flag actions
She’s hot dude, everyone guy wishes he could have a piece of that loven. What’s wrong wid you?
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 4:28 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
She’s not even remotely hot with make up. Also the bitch attitude just kills it for me.
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 4:34 PM EST reply Recommend (10) Flag actions
Grudge-Bang! Totally!
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 5:17 PM EST reply Recommend (3) Flag actions
every guy YOU know wishes a piece of that, Im pretty sure I’d pass that…ughhh
Posted on Jan 20, 2012 | 8:24 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Potato in a bikini?
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 6:38 PM EST via mobile reply Recommend (12) Flag actions
Thanks for my morning laugh.
Posted on Jan 21, 2012 | 8:18 AM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
This is awesome…Snooki is a toolbag.
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 4:12 PM EST reply Recommend (8) Flag actions
You really should apologize, she’s an american idol and has done probably more than you ever will. She has changed marketing, capitalism, the way we view the world and plus she looks good. Snookie demonstrates success, not someone trolling for attention. Being jealous doesn’t do you much.
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 4:29 PM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
Some of us do it for the lulz
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 5:12 PM EST reply Recommend (3) Flag actions
;-(
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 6:15 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
What has she done?
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 8:55 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Haha, good one :)
Posted on Jan 20, 2012 | 3:54 AM EST reply Recommend (6) Flag actions
This is what I remembered at the first glance at the headline!
Posted on Jan 20, 2012 | 4:04 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
you missed a “/s” tag on the end of that…
Posted on Jan 20, 2012 | 4:19 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
riiiiiiiiiiight
Posted on Jan 21, 2012 | 12:15 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Who are these people!?
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 4:16 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
These are our gods, respect them.
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 4:30 PM EST reply Recommend (8) Flag actions
Our overloads. You better get used to it.
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 4:39 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
OK. Here’s the plan. All tech websites get together and agree to give zero coverage to any event with a pointless celebrity appearance. Even if it is the iPad 3 launch or something. All readers of tech websites punish those breaking this agreement by refusing to read or click ads surrounding coverage of an event with a pointless celebrity appearance. All humanity enforces this behaviour by refusing to speak to anyone who gives in to a sad, unhealthy urge to read such stories. And if humanity fails in its task then the Q get to destroy us all.
And this, Joanna Stern, includes absolutely anything to do with “Justin Bieber”, whatever one of those is.
Deal?
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 5:07 PM EST reply Recommend (3) Flag actions
Let’s do it!
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 5:18 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I seriously thought Snooki was another character that Bobby Moynihan created. Sadly I was mistaken.
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 4:20 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
Bobby Moynihan is the real Snooki.
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 5:49 PM EST reply Recommend (4) Flag actions
I thought snookie was some new robotic toy’s name….lol
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 7:40 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
"With one arm on her charge, Snooki’s minder then asked me if I had any questions about the headphones. “No, not really,” I replied."
Absolutely brilliant!
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 4:20 PM EST reply Recommend (10) Flag actions
One situation where the large format pictures of The Verge are a detriment… to pretty much everything.
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 4:22 PM EST reply Recommend (4) Flag actions
With multiple World Championships with several different NBA teams and you only give him credit for being on Celebrity Rehab and a few appearences in a wrestling ring, C’mon! Rodman deserves better, especially with several Chicago residents on staff.
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 4:24 PM EST via mobile reply Recommend (3) Flag actions
He even got into the Hall of Fame.
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 5:54 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Well, even Rodman himself says he does not care about the sport at all, read the article.
Posted on Jan 20, 2012 | 3:55 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Agreed. I may be a geek. But I also love sports. Dennis Rodman was the best pound-for-pound rebounder in NBA history. He made his name on the basketball court first. He is eccentric, but when I think of Dennis Rodman, I think of the “Bad Boy” Pistons and Michael Jordan’s second 3-peat.
Posted on Jan 20, 2012 | 11:54 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I was there when Snooki spoke at Rutgers. Fun times!
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 4:29 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
First off, great article on the influence of celebrities and breaking down the purpose of their presence.
Second: “It was Vinnie who left the show, not Pauly.” made me laugh a good bit.
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 4:39 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
This would have made an amazing marketing/PR expose of CES. Maybe next year . . . ?
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 4:39 PM EST via mobile reply Recommend Flag actions
Will Smith is A-list.
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 4:43 PM EST reply Recommend (10) Flag actions
This. Will Smith is most-definitely A-List.
Posted on Jan 20, 2012 | 11:56 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
This is pretty awesome. But seriously, Will Smith is A list. He’s also a great actor and seems like a pretty awesome guy. Everyone else mentioned kinda sucks.
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 4:45 PM EST reply Recommend (16) Flag actions
Love the article though.
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 4:45 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 5:19 PM EST reply Recommend (6) Flag actions
Poor dog looks confused…
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 5:20 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Hahaha that’s from a Mexican show called Otro Rollo.
BTW. Will Smith lerned to speak spanish just because he wanted to, so now that he does he hang out in spanish TV from time to time, that’s way better than those artist that make spanish albums without even speaking the language.
Really nice guy and I agree with iCell, deff A list.
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 6:47 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Where did you get that gif? And how did you make that?
Posted on Jan 20, 2012 | 6:51 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Nice one.
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 8:28 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Great read. Thanks Mr. Flatley.
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 4:46 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
“Why Dennis Rodman?”
“He’s colorful, he’s a world traveler,” – haha!
And Verdine White is a C-lister?
I can’t love this enough.
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 4:50 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Wow. The style, concept, execution— everything about this piece is brilliant. Great showcase of Verge/Vox publishing tools too, coupled with the photos placed after the video that whole interview with Snooki was actually kind of haunting to read, with the hints of depth at what the “three years ago” could fully mean.
On a Verge level, the fact that this is their idea of CES coverage just shows how great and completely different from every other tech site this is. Love it. Would love to buy a print compilation of the best features (Paul Miller on Starcraft, etc) in print form in November/December.
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 4:53 PM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
Wait, Paul Miller wrote about Starcraft?
Must.Use.Search.
BRB….
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 5:00 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
http://www.theverge.com/2011/11/18/2571255/starcraft-changed-my-life
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 6:07 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Sweet article too… I come here every day, several times a day… How could I have missed that!?
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 10:40 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I would definitely buy that.
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 5:24 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
agreed. The whole article, the idea, the writing, the flow, the photos and the Art of the video are amazing and show that this is far more than a gadget blog. These writers are journalists, not just “bloggers” The video was amazing. Loved the style, flow, editing, music. nice complaint to the written piece
Posted on Jan 22, 2012 | 8:44 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
you should’ve asked if she really have The Situation a Blowjob :p
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 5:00 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
gave* (why is there no edit )
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 5:00 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Very nice article, keep it up.
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 5:00 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
“walking haltingly”? Better word choice.
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 5:01 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
A link to your article, published on a timeline, that is insightful and thought provoking and garners a few hundred thousand hits within a few hours of publishing (which is also actively revised, assuming contructive feedback), please?
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 5:37 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Genuine question. Who is Andy Dick? I have no idea.
I just about know who Snooki is. It would seem I live in a cultural vacuum; perhaps a good thing.
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 6:31 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
The TV show NewsRadio is probably his best known work.
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 6:33 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Thanks. Not something I have seen but at least tells me he may have some cultural relevance at some point…or at least more relevance than some midget with “loose values” who got lucky
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 6:39 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Hmmm…
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 7:46 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
I think you just put Debord and PKD in the same paragraph. +1
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 8:31 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
I don’t usually feel this way on The Verge, but this isn’t People magazine, so TL;DR.
Also your star magnitude chart is backwards from the astronomical variety. Of course maybe that was on purpose since real stars have some cosmic significance.
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 8:42 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I like the guy in the orange in the first photo. PHOTO BOMB
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 9:36 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Dear God she’s ugly!
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 10:47 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
This article was riveting….
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 11:18 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Beware, toxic post by OP…twisted and warping…
Posted on Jan 19, 2012 | 11:18 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
sorry, still failing to understand the appeal of jersey shore? massive toolfest, no?
Posted on Jan 20, 2012 | 4:22 AM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
That Will Smith gif it pretty funny.
Posted on Jan 20, 2012 | 6:50 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Meh. The article was just a rant/ramble that went nowhere in particular. A lot of speculation, random information, and no conclusion. You don’t need to cite ridiculously pretentious French Marxist philosopher’s to make a very simple point about marketing. So as not to be overly negative, I salute you for trying to tackle a very important topic.
Posted on Jan 20, 2012 | 8:40 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
edit: *philosophers
Posted on Jan 20, 2012 | 8:41 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I think that was them trying to be funny. It worked because I laughed.
Posted on Jan 20, 2012 | 10:03 AM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
Great article! I like how the value of Snooki varies as the show goes on…
Posted on Jan 20, 2012 | 8:59 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Well she’s already sold her soul and dignity, so I suppose this was the only thing next?
Posted on Jan 20, 2012 | 9:56 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I think the article should be titled “Why is Snooki trying to sell me anything?”
Posted on Jan 20, 2012 | 9:58 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
It’s original articles like this that make The Verge superior to other tech sites. I love the philosophical aspect combined with actual math. Though I feel like will.i.am should be ranked above Justin Beiber, he is most definitely A list, Forbes ranks the Black Eyed Peas as 16th on their Celebrity 100. Could there be some bias because of their group nature? It may be unfair to the other band members but when they say Black Eyed Peas I think “will.i.am and Fergie”, I don’t think it would be inaccurate to use some metric to incorporate the group fame to him personally. Seriously, they hold the record for longest consecutive time at number 1 on the Billboard charts, as in longer that Elvis, Michael Jackson, and the Beatles. JB has never even had a number one single that I can find, though several of his albums have ranked number one.
Posted on Jan 20, 2012 | 11:36 AM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
Wasn’t it Mariah Carey and Boyz II Men’s duet that spent the most consecutive weeks (16) at number 1? Black Eyed Peas were only there for 12.
Posted on Jan 21, 2012 | 8:28 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
For one single yes but Boom Boom Pow and I got a Feeling were consecutive #1s so the group held the number one spot for 26 weeks total (They are also one of 11 groups to have held 1&2 simultaneously).
Posted on Jan 21, 2012 | 9:36 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Totally agree, can’t tell if they are joking or what, but will.i.am is definitely A-list. Maybe apl.de.ap is not, but le s not enter there!
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 2:26 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
The point is about the BEST use of celebrities for marketing. Beyond choosing the celebrity, what should you do once you confirm the gig? There are ways they could have improved the CES endorsements, to be sure. To get the attention you WANT and build the buzz you NEED takes strategic planning. I don’t think these companies did that well.
Posted on Jan 20, 2012 | 1:05 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
This article sets the high water mark for tech articles this year. Great job.
Posted on Jan 20, 2012 | 3:44 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
You guys have some nerve to pick on a woman (snooki) when the real culprit is Dr Dre. Its real easy to pick her as the target. Come on guys, show some backbone.
Posted on Jan 20, 2012 | 7:17 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
Awesome article, Dabord is great. I bought Jean Boudrillard’s “Simulations” the other day. But I never read it, I just love how it loos on my shelf.
I love when we can pick a product just because this or that celebrity endorses it. There is nothing worse than picking 5 different headphones and try to come up with objective comparisons. Who wants to keep looking at frequency response curves? It’s not just that “the average consumer” doesn’t mind, in many occasions specs don’t really matter. Technical battles really don’t go a long way anymore for many products.
But selecting celebrities isn’t easy too. You can’t pick Will Smith to promote dancing robots, for example. The only thing he hates more than robots are post-apocalyptic vampire-zombies from New York! And I bet James Randi might easily start revealing all sorts of scientific inaccuracies in the pseudo-scientific claims of headphone manufacturers.
By the way, I was thinking maybe we can come up with a better celebrity ranking by basing it on the Elo rating. For that we would need some kind of test that tells when some celebrity “out-celebritates” another, that would constitute the correlate “celebrity chess-match”.
Posted on Jan 21, 2012 | 1:09 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
It’s nearly impossible without testing them all and comparing, so I let someone else do it for me. I go to www.head-fi.org and look at the reviews and accept my ignorance in this area lol
Posted on Jan 21, 2012 | 9:39 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCvj4kTJqT8&
This brightened my day. :)
Posted on Jan 21, 2012 | 3:39 PM EST via mobile reply Recommend Flag actions
Have I fallen through the rabbit-hole to an alternate Awl that combines gadget reviews with post-Baudrillard consumerist critique?
Oh, no — just another awesome article on the Verge. Carry on.
Posted on Jan 21, 2012 | 9:38 PM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
You just crash-landed into the desert of the reality TV!
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 12:26 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
U have no idea how long it took me to find out that Snooki is not a brand of headphones but just some Kardashianist. Nyway, some more important news please.
Much Love for The Verge, Tim
Posted on Jan 22, 2012 | 12:12 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I plan to read this. Really, I do.
But oh god my attention span…
Posted on Jan 22, 2012 | 4:16 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
Oh Joseph, you lured us into reading this by wisely questioning the existence of snooki but also tickling our “carwreck leering” by invoking her name. But it was worth it! I think you should be proud that you got such a withering look of disgust from snooki. Hopefully you can use that as some sort hogwarts spell to ward off your celebophobia.
Posted on Jan 23, 2012 | 9:12 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
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