Following up on its December announcement that it would open source the platform — a last-ditch effort to make it viable — HP has gone into detail today on exactly when and how developers will be getting access to webOS code. The company expects the entire open sourcing process to be complete by September, while Enyo, the application framework that debuted on the TouchPad and underpins webOS 3.0, is available as of today along with related developer tools. When open sourcing is complete, the finished product will be known as Open webOS 1.0.
Additionally, HP is releasing a major refresh of Enyo, version 2.0, which starts to make good on HP's promise that it would continue to "be an active participant and investor in the project." Enyo 2.0's draw is that it's not tied to WebKit — it's fully browser-independent, which means you'll be able to write Open webOS apps that work in Internet Explorer, Chrome, Firefox, and so on. The company says that by taking webOS beyond hardware and letting developers write apps that work natively in any browser, it helps build an ecosystem — and an ecosystem is exactly what the platform needs right now if it has any hope of succeeding.
Beyond today, HP expects major releases roughly every month for the next six or seven months, some of which will make some pretty significant changes to webOS's internals. The biggest might be the switch to the standard Linux kernel — a la Android — which will make it far easier for OEMs and developers to get the platform bootstrapped onto a wider array of hardware thanks to abundant driver availability. The company will be moving to the Apache 2.0 license wherever possible to ease and streamline development and deployment for third parties; HP says that "it provides a legal framework that balances open innovation and a dependable user experience, which is consistent with HP's vision for webOS."
As for existing hardware, it'll be possibly for developers to get Open webOS builds onto their TouchPads over the course of the year, but regular end users — those without hacking chops — can expect an update in "late summer." Surprisingly, HP says that it's "looking" at all webOS devices to see if, when, and how to make Open webOS available for them, so Pre, Pixi, and Veer users of all flavors should keep their hopes up.


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Introducing the death of android roms. /s
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 2:32 PM EST reply Recommend (3) Flag actions
Probably not but it would be nice to have WebOS on some of those androids
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 2:38 PM EST reply Recommend (30) Flag actions
That would be freaking awesome. Or even just elements from webOS ported over to Android (if that’s possible).
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 2:52 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
If we’re making frankensteins, surely Android on iPhone 4 is the dream?
That’s my dream, anyway. Apple make beautiful hardware but iOS is ugly as hell, imo.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 3:01 PM EST via mobile reply Recommend (8) Flag actions
Really? I think Android looks really ugly. ICS has helped a lot, but the UI is still really inconsistent and bad looking to me.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 3:08 PM EST reply Recommend (33) Flag actions
Really? I think iOS and it’s archaic and skeuomorphic design look hideous.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 6:27 PM EST reply Recommend (10) Flag actions
*its
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 6:28 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
While that may certainly be the case, it doesn’t exclude his claim of UI inconsistency on Android from the realm of truth. :)
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:41 AM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
iOS’s bubbly interface looks like a children’s website from 8 years ago.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 7:19 PM EST reply Recommend (3) Flag actions
I have no idea what you’re talking about.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 9:01 PM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
- opens eyes
oh thaaaaattttt did it
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 10:11 PM EST reply Recommend (5) Flag actions
clicks home. oooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 11:56 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
Yeah, really.
iOS looks like clunky dumb phones and Nokias next to Android and WP7. Ironic considering it’s what made everything else “high-end” (okay, so just Nokias and BBs) look archaic when it first launched.
It just hasn’t changed enough. If you make a really simple UI, it will age quicker than one that is less so. So for that reason, they need drastic UI changes more often than Android or WP7 does.
Also, to expand on my original point – my real “thing of beauty” phone would actually run WP7 on an iPhone 4. But WP7 just is lacking apps etc. at the moment, so for now it’d have to be Android. “Thing of beauty” tablet would be ICS on an iPad, no question.
Posted on Jan 29, 2012 | 8:58 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
i think they make beautiful hardware, but they have an extremely limited approach which isnt best for every user. I think their os is beautiful as well.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 3:21 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
android on the other hand doesn’t look great off the bat (pre ics anyway, i love the look of that), but with some work, you can make it look beautiful as well.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 3:22 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
AOSP Gingerbread isnt the prettiest, but its still pretty decent looking compared to previous versions.
Sense, Touchwiz 4 (on the SGS2) look pretty good visually, but it’s not consistent with the rest of the OS
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 3:49 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
not a fan of touchwiz, but the newest one does look a lot better than previous versions.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 5:14 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Couldn’t have put it better myself!
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 3:55 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Beautiful hardware but not practical in my real world. Any phone covered in glass WILL be shattered. This is why I only see 2 different kinds of iPhone 4(S): Newly bought ones and shattered screen/back ones….
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 4:42 PM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
Sorry about your fine motor control disorder.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 5:53 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
tell us your secret to avoiding accidents and controlling the immediate area surrounding your phone all the time.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 6:26 PM EST via mobile reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
Just don’t drop your phone? Pretty easy. I’ve had every iPhone and never had anything outside of minor scratches from everyday use. The people that mention the glass crack me up. Just don’t be a clumsy ass.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 8:22 PM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
pun intended?
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:10 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
You know why that’s what you think you see? Because if it’s not broken the iPhone 4/s looks like new. I’ve had my 4 since launch day and it’s still, to the eye, totally flawless.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 10:57 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
my wife and i have had ip4 since they came out and have 0 shatters…. dropped them, banged them around, generally havent babied them, and no cases either… your statement is a huge exaggeration
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 2:52 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
If iOS is ugly, what’s Android? It looks like a beta iOS before the nice graphics were added. Yuck.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 8:21 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
I can see the open source community getting apks side loading very quickly. Andriod app in a card anyone?
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 2:39 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
Does webOS have a JVM for it?
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 2:42 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Once the kernel is swapped out, yes.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 2:46 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
It’s almost trivial to get one once they switch to standard Linux…
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 3:01 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
WebOS is a lot closer to standard Linux kernels and frameworks than Android is. Nothing other than Meego and Maemo from Nokia come close, as far as the under the hood stuff goes.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 9:09 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Nope, I’m running Android ICS on my Touchpad right now. I only boot into WebOS when an update is announced, so I can take a look. For all intents and purposes, it’s an Android tablet now, and better for it. I don’t forsee going back to WebOS.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 4:10 PM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
how are android apps running? is it a difficult install?
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 4:23 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
i also have it. Apps are running great. theres a couple of issues with certain 3d games, but im not a huge mobile gamer so i cant comment much on that, Its easy to install if you follow one the the youtube videos out there. Or, if you already had cm7 beforehand and you dont mind full wiping, you can just flash in recovery.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 5:18 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
The install, if you aren’t used to installing mods and the prerequisite gaining of root access can be daunting. Specifically, in order to make it able to dual boot Android and WebOS involves some work arounds. You need Palm’s developer software for WebOS (which is free), a couple of utilities customized to the task, and a copy of the ROM, plus Google Apps.
App-wise, other than apps that just don’t work with ICS yet, or are designed for hardware that’s very different from the TP’s available stuff, everything is pretty good. It’s actually got a better success rating at some apps than my Galaxy Nexus running ICS does.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 9:54 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Though i will say I’m really hoping to see more enyo coming to android apps. Still cant really find a great ICS google reader (using Newsr right now) or a great twitter client. Both of which are surpassed by enyo-based webOS apps. I dual boot, but if there was an Android player in webOS there’s no question it would be my primary OS. Build and UI are still much more natural than ICS – lack of apps is its downfall.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 9:59 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
No, you’re running CyanogenMod 9 on your Touchpad.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 4:39 PM EST reply Recommend (4) Flag actions
Clever little thing you got going on with your star.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 4:51 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
Thanks. If you stare at it long enough it morphs.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 6:20 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
..and that’s different from just saying I’m running Android…how, exactly? Especially in Alpha, it’s literally a direct port. None of CM’s magical juice is present yet.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 9:50 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Because it’s called CyanogenMod and it’s their distribution. And yes, the version you’re running does contain “CM’s magical juice”.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 11:31 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
It’s still Android. Android is Android. There’s a mythical creature called the vanilla version that doesn’t actually exist. Every working version of Android is tailored to the device it’s on. The TP version is not highly customized as of yet. It works, and that’s about all you can say. All the homescreen customizers, specialized tweaks and such aren’t present yet like they were in CM7. I’m looking forward to them refining the ROM and adding those things in, but it’s not there yet.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:01 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I was just looking into this today :) Excellent news, Can’t wait to see what happens to WebOS.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 2:36 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
This….is happening. :|
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 2:36 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
February: UI Enyo Widgets
Is this widgets in the sense that I’m thinking about them (also a la Android)?
This could be a big change for WebOS, Might have to dig up my pre!
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 2:38 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
No, in terms of UI code, a ‘widget’ can be as simple as a button. It’s just an element to build a UI, nothing fancy.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 3:25 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
No it’s the term for a UI control (button, combobox, list, etc.)
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 3:53 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
It would be awesome to run it on an iPhone…. just sayin.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 2:38 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Except for the lack of a gesture area. Although, I’m sure you could easily emulate that at the bottom of the touchscreen.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 2:45 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
No real need for one, just use the home button as button to bring up cards and your pretty much set.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 3:05 PM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
Except for “back” gestures in every app…
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 3:14 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
not in enyo. Only the older framework they are releasing last in September (Mojo) has gestures.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 4:44 PM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
Agreed. Home button can serve as “back”. And as we saw from touchpad, you can swipe up from outside the screen for card view. No gesture necessary.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 5:22 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
This is definitely going to put the heat on Microsoft.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 2:38 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I think this has a bigger potential impact to android.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 2:48 PM EST reply Recommend (14) Flag actions
How do you figure? I seriously doubt that Open WebOS will get any level of commercial manufacturer support that remotely compares to the entirety of Nokia’s high-end efforts. It’ll probably start out mostly as a community novelty, with roms being made for common Android phones, then maybe in a year or so if the community interest is still there Samsung or HTC might bite and release one or two phones. Anything that might realistically put heat on Microsoft is still a long way off.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 4:22 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Well, so far WP7 hasn’t gotten very far. Anyway, the Enyo framework is the core of all WebOS applications. If people begin to adapt it, it’ll show what the platform itself is capable of and companies may start to take notice.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:27 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Let the cool Mods and enhancements begin. Here’s to hoping that a big wig tech company will take it over and breath some life into it
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 2:39 PM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
Like HP!?!
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 3:48 PM EST reply Recommend (6) Flag actions
SONY!! They are leaving behind Ericcson and now it’s time to leave behind android or at least support both. Android isn’t doing them any favors right now and could use a distinct OS from the competition.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 5:24 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I want WebOS on my HTC Sensation so bad. I was literally surfing XDA for ideas earlier. I’m also scouting ebay for a used Pre, just for WebOS again. I think the forums need a section called WebOS Faithful.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 2:40 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
I’m speaking in very short sentences, because I’ve had too much coffee.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 2:41 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
One could argue that HP’s failure could be the biggest thing for webOS :)
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 2:41 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
It would be so awesome, to just switch between Android, webOS.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 2:44 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 2:41 PM EST reply Recommend (35) Flag actions
With a beard and a shootgun.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 3:16 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
is that like a stabknife? or perhaps a swingbat? :D
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 3:36 PM EST reply Recommend (17) Flag actions
I wish I could recommend this a couple dozen more times.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 4:23 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
You know who else will be Bach?
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 6:33 PM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
…I have this as a shirt
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 7:01 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Hopefully this means cards on Android soon.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 2:45 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
inb4 HTC HD2 WebOS port.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 2:51 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
I’m still flabbergasted that they liquidated their TouchPad stock for $99 yet you can go online right now and buy an HP Slate II for $699 – $849. HP brass could not be any more out of touch with consumers.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 2:55 PM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
Slate and Touchpad are completely different products.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 3:09 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Maybe different in that one is useful and one is not, despite the higher price tag. No company that is serious about tablet computing is making a Windows 7 tablet. Sure, you see the occasional nurse in a doctor’s office tapping a stylus on a bulky Windows tablet from time to time, but here I’m referring to general public-facing tablets. Any company that is scrapping its innovative tablet while following up the Slate with the Slate II may as well tell its employees to not even come to work in the morning.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 4:12 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
This is maybe why the slate is marketed to doctor’s offices and not you and I – because they need Windows for their applications and don’t want some bulky machine to tap away at with a stylus.
In terms of its intended market, the slate and slate II are in a class by themselves. Lack of competition also explains why it’s still so expensive.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 5:09 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
And this is hopefully why Windows 8 will rock.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 5:55 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
There are more consumers than there are doctor’s offices. I don’t think HP is making profit on these slates.
In any case, HP is super smart to focus on few hundred thousand doctor’s offices and ignoring 50 million non-doctor’s office consumers. Wait till all of the doctor’s offices are filled with iPad/Android tablets.
Like they say, HP knows their customers.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 11:41 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
They liquidated the TouchPad to get rid of excess stock. There aren’t millions of unsold Slates sitting around in BestBuy warehouses because HP never made all that many of them.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 4:24 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
And I’m loving my 32GB TouchPad that much more….dual-booting webOS and ICS and loving it.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 2:56 PM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
Indeed :) but would probably prefer to bring Android (apps) into the webOS boot – which may be coming if this all pans out the way it looks like it might… :D
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 3:15 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
Come on Samsung!!
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 2:56 PM EST via mobile reply Recommend Flag actions
as soon as i read this post i started to celebrate. Does this mean we will probably see what happened to Android and every friggn chinese manufacturer will put webOS on their tablets ? Maybe, but hey, at least webOS ain´t dead.
My next hope is we see a webOSxAndroid Hybrid with the system Palm gave birth to, and the application choice of Android….
Somebody call Rubenstein, they need a face to bring this baby back to where it belongs. (Yes, i know what she can and what not)
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 2:56 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
It probably won’t be sold on any new phones/tablets any time soon! It’ll be for hackers, and every Android app you could want is only a step away once they switch in the standard Linux Kernel.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 3:03 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
No. Google is actively putting hundreds of millions of dollars into the design, development and maintenance of Android. HP probably has 10 guys cleaning out the webOS code so it can be released. After that, it’s up to the community, which will move very very very slowly compared to organization with hundreds of millions of dollars.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 3:15 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
But when you can run an Android app on webOS… I think the market will be there for this. Palm still has patents and a base UI experience that definitely rivals all the “man hours” put into Android.
Most of all – i’m curious what Duarte thinks of this development with his baby… :D
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 3:17 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Or +350, but you know, same thing.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 5:11 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Should be called Webos 1.0 code name “Margarita”
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 3:04 PM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
This will put no heat on Windows Phone 7 or Android. It will always be a step behind unless some major leap in UI takes place. All other modern OSs have already poached the good ideas of WebOS. The differentiator now is the base of used devices and the ecosystem. Neither of these will ever catch up to the big guys.
I love this as a project and I like WebOS. I will install it on my Android Device if it becomes available, but it will never “compete” with the other more mature OSs. It’s just not probable.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 3:10 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Still waiting for iOS to pull in contact info from facebook… photos for contact etc…
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 3:17 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Kind of like how iOS had no chance of competing with or catching the more maturely developed Blackberry right? Winds of Change blow forth and back my friend.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 3:18 PM EST reply Recommend (5) Flag actions
I am just stating that opening a platform is usually a death-knell. See Symbian. It splinters use cases and can make it hard to have a focused, honed end product.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 3:48 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
And you still won’t find a competitor with synergy. Using one messaging app for SMS, AIM, gtalk, facebook, yahoo and msft live messanger (am I missing any?) really is the most underrated feature of webOS IMO.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 5:14 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I don’t understand how web os is any more behind android, ios and wp7. It’s not like symbian. It’s extremely scale-able has some of the best multitasking and is coded in widely used web based languages. In terms of applications It may be behind. Each os also has something they do poorly and something they do very well.
We probably will not see web os get that much traction but it didn’t fail because it’s some how outdated.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 9:03 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
^Giddy
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 3:11 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I have the iphone 4s right now. it’s ok, but it does not engage me the way me WebOS phone did. I can’t wait for WebOS to come back. It really is the best mobile OS going right now. Hopefully this means that it will finally get the floodgate of apps it deserves to put in the front of the race which is where it deserves an honest to goodness chance to be. I’ll always be excited and hopeful for WebOS.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 3:15 PM EST reply Recommend (7) Flag actions
Completely agree. I have a touchpad so I still get my webos fix, but the iPhone UI is no comparison.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 3:35 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Does Android use a standard Linux kernel now or just more standard than WebOS? I thought the power management was quite diffferent.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 3:21 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
http://felipec.wordpress.com/2012/01/04/android-vs-maemo-power-managment-static-vs-dynamic/
No, Android does not use neither a standard linux kernel nor standard linux power management.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 3:32 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I don’t this means anything except for die hard WebOS fans.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 3:30 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Well, WebOS apps were running already on the Nokia N900, so I wait to see Enyo pretty darn quickly on the follow-up N9 (you know, buttonless, detecting gestures from the edges, pure Linux just like WebOS, etc.)
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 3:31 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Hope this gives webOS the boost it needs to survive!
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 3:38 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I still wanna know can webos after the last september enyo 2.2 and open webos 1.0 be on par with ios on touch response and performance?? also will enyo apps be capable as with ios apps like infinity blade and garage band???
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 3:38 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
On a good day, the Touchpad and the iPad will go head-to-head in smoothness and touch response. On a bad day (let’s be honest, there just as many), it’s even worse than Andriod. This is the promise and downfall of webOS, in a nutshell.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 5:18 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
after the community get their paws on it and has a chance to stream-line it it will likely outperform Android, IOS and WP7. look at other OS software – for tasks that they have been focused on the OS one usually wins. i.e. Chrome, Firefox, Thunderbird, handbrake, Arch/Gentoo/Slackware even Ubuntu is just as fast as W7. Software is one place social collaboration can easily outpace a large corporation – the biggest potential issue is a lack of direction and focus.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 6:43 PM EST via mobile reply Recommend Flag actions
Well, who knows, if this OS is less encumbered with patent issues than Android, maybe companies like Samsung and LG can make better profits from it than with Android or Windows Phone.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 3:56 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Interesting perspective. I’m sure the manufacturers are considering (and quantifying) all this – I hope one of them speaks out about what they find.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 5:19 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Well, at least they got around to releasing Enyo quick enough. HP sure loves to take its time with webOS though.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 4:00 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
That’s great, but by the time WebOS starts trickling into consumer devices iOS 6 would be in mid-product cycle. In my opinion WebOS is still stuck where iOS 3 used to be, and that’s not counting all the enhanced stuff like iCloud and the digital media distribution.
I’m skeptical about WebOS prospects as a commercially successful product. Not this late in the game. Just like Ubuntu it sounds great on paper but the market just isn’t there and there are no profits to be had.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 4:02 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
You have a decent argument in that last paragraph, but the first one has no merit whatsoever. Feature for feature (OS only – lack of ecosystem is covered in that second paragraph), where does webOS lag iOS3?
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 5:22 PM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
Have you even used webOS?
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 5:33 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
iOS 3 didn’t have wallpaper support or multitasking and you’re comparing it to WebOS?
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:53 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
To all the people hoping this will replace Android as THE open source OS for mobile, I’ve got two words for you:app support.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 4:14 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
As a Palm lover and user of Pre Plus for a while I think that this is great path forward and seems like a more viable path forward than the one HP had taken Palm since it bought it over a year ago.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 4:21 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
This is the beginning of the end of Android as we know it. It stands however to be seen how developers take to this…..does anyone realize the “dead” platforms are coming back again ? I believe 2012 will hold more surprises than we think.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 4:28 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 5:23 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
You really should get some fresh air some time. It seems to be affecting your thinking process.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 6:25 PM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
So you are open-sourcing the webOS this September, the OS which you basically killed LAST August when it was already dated and lagging behind competition?
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 5:52 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
A developer has already ported a webOS app to Android that uses Enyo, pretty cool.
https://market.android.com/details?id=net.ryanwatkins.app.papermache
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 6:40 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
Whoa whoa whoa there.
Umm, although it has gotten better, and now the mainline kernel should be able to reintegrate drivers and other code developed for the Android tree, it’s actually been a longstanding issue that the Android kernel has some delta from the mainline kernel.
A general story about this can be found here: “Linus Torvalds on Android, the Linux fork”. Point is, though, that WebOS is now more mainline than Android (which, lacking the interest and device ecosystem that Android has, is pretty damn important for WebOS).
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 8:05 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Here’s hoping for the day we just mash webOS, Meego, and Android into one huge super OS.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 8:20 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Enyo is just the sliding panes framework for WebOS, correct? If that’s the case, then I find Enyo kind of boring. I know people who absolutely love the WebOS aesthetic, but I prefer Metro or, more recently, ICS. I’m really not trying to start arguments, but I can only deal with the Prelude font for so long.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 8:43 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Don’t expect Prelude to be released with this. If it is, expect a legal battle. There is plenty of non-HP owned proprietary bits in webOS and it will be interesting to see how they manage this release.
Also, why the hate on Prelude? It is a fantastic screen font.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 10:03 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
GASP YesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesyesYES! webOS lives on! Kind of. Someone port this to the Galaxy Nexus, please?
Actually, that’s a valid question. How hard would it be to port to the GN? Open Source finally means that it’s not tied to the processor, (thank you!) meaning that although it won’t be as smooth, (I feel like I just made a funny! webOS, smooth?) it should be able to be ported to pretty much any Android phone no harder than AOSP, right? Not that that’s at all easy, but it’s easily doable for quite a few people to kang different AOSP/CM9 builds on the GN, so I don’t see why it wouldn’t be possible. Consider my hopes up! First, webOS. Next, dual boot!
…Oh, wait. They haven’t open sourced the radio software for the Verizon GN yet. Once that’s done, there should be no obstacle to making a completely working port for the GN.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 9:19 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
What about fonts and other non-HP owned IP?
Are they going to open source webOS with the droid fonts?
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 10:00 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
webOS will continue to be enjoyed by tens of people in the world.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 10:30 AM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
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