When Asus' Transformer Prime hit the market in early December, it was undoubtedly the best tablet hardware on the market. I said as much in my original review: it had a brand new quad-core Tegra 3 processor, the new 8-megapixel camera took impressive stills and video, and the keyboard dock, like the original Transformer's, continued to add an entirely different dimension to the tablet experience. However, it was the software — Android 3.2 aka Honeycomb — which held the tablet back. Not only was the browser performance slower than it should have been, but Honeycomb itself lacked the fit and finish to match Asus' great hardware. Google's Ice Cream Sandwich update is supposed to solve all that, and just last week Asus rolled out the over-the-air upgrade. So, have all the software woes melted away or are there still some outstanding issues with the operating system? I've spent the last week testing the new software to find out.
User interface
On the Galaxy Nexus, Ice Cream Sandwich feels like an entirely new operating system, but on a tablet it feels a lot like Honeycomb. That's not a bad thing, but a lot of the Honeycomb UI blueprint still remains. The back, home, and recent apps buttons live in the lower left-hand corner and the application tray shortcut in the upper right hand corner. Jumping to all the different corners to navigate has always been a bit jarring, and I can't help but wonder why Google didn't just center the app tray on the bottom edge, like it has on phones. Perhaps, they thought it made more sense with the more common horizontal orientation of tablets, but it would have been nice if it were a customizable option of some sort.
There are some notable tweaks that I find extremely useful on a tablet, however. You can now swipe away apps from the recent apps list; this has functioned as a multitasking tool in the past, but now swiping away apps (a la webOS cards) actually pulls it out of this list and in some cases closes the app. You can similarly swipe away notifications from the notification and settings tray in the bottom right corner. I also appreciate the new folder functionality and the new way of adding widgets: rather than holding down a finger on the homescreen and the widget panel rising up from the bottom of the screen, you now add your favorite weather or email widget from the app tray. The widget page is tacked on to the end of the app pages.
Overall, the UI experience isn't drastically different, but some of those little tweaks — notably swiping away open apps and notifications — do make it easier and more intuitive to navigate.
Stability and performance
The biggest difference between ICS and Honeycomb on the Transformer Prime is stability. I saw a few crashes when I first got the Prime, and while Asus has released a few Honeycomb updates since its release, the Android 4.0.3 build seems like the most stable yet. In the last week I only encountered one Force Close and I think that might have had to do with a bad website.
Speaking of websites, browser performance has also been much improved. There was noticeable scrolling lag with the Honeycomb version, especially on loading this very site. That's not the case anymore; scrolling and pinch-to-zoom gestures are very fluid. Also improved is the camera speed — it now focuses quicker, and thanks to ICS' faster shutter feature, you don't have to wait more than a second for it to snap a picture. I'd like to see ICS running on more tablets to make a final call on if this OS is finally stable enough, but the performance I've seen on the Prime is a very good indication that Google has fixed a lot of the stability and speed issues that plagued Honeycomb.
| SunSpider | Quadrant Overall | Quadrant CPU | |
|---|---|---|---|
| Transformer Prime (Android 4.0) | 1978.1ms | 2559 | 4991 |
| Transformer Prime (Android 3.2) | 1707.3ms | 3132 | 5453 |
| Eee Pad Transformer | 2273.3ms | 1610 | 3860 |
| Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 | 2374.2ms | 2040 | 2744 |
| Motorola Xoom | 2335.0ms | 1024 | 3886 |
Note: I've included new benchmarks above, though I really wouldn't put too much stock in them (some have actually said Quadrant hasn't been optimized for ICS yet). As I've stated in the paragraphs above, the end user experience feels much faster and more stable.
Apps
Like we detailed in the Galaxy Nexus review, a lot of the core Google apps have been reworked in ICS. On a tablet, many of them still feel like they did in Honeycomb, though they have been spruced up a bit with Google's new Roboto font and some other styling changes. The biggest changes on a tablet really come with the Camera and Browser — Gmail and the Calendar look a lot like the Honeycomb versions. The Camera app now has built in photo editing tools, which can be a lot of fun to mess around with. The Browser now has a "Request Desktop Site" setting, which is a godsend for those who continuously have had to look for that "go to full site" button on webpages.
What ICS doesn't magically change is the selection and quality of the tablet apps available in the Android Market. I have consistently pointed out the lack of tablet-optimized apps in my Honeycomb tablet reviews, and it looks like it will be a complaint that persists. While there have been some notable additions and there are some decent tablet-optimized apps (News360, Plume, and TapTu come to mind), others like Facebook and Twitter haven't been redesigned to take advantage of the higher resolution screen, making the experience flat-out disappointing. I should mention that I ran into no issues running apps, even ones that haven't been tweaked for Android 4.0 yet, on the tablet, but I've always been of the mind that phone apps are simply not good enough when you have a larger screen.
I can't say exactly what it is that is holding some of these app developers back from developing tablet apps for Android, but I have said it before and I will say it again: the Android tablet app selection just cannot compete in quantity or quality with the options available for the iPad. If you're content with a tablet experience centered around e-mail and web browsing these app issues likely won't bother you, but if you're seeking a really beautiful app experience, Android tablets simply don't yet provide it.
Wrap-up
The question isn't if you should update your Transformer Prime to ICS — the answer to that is "yes, you should." The main question really is: does the software make the Android tablet experience as good or better than the one on competing tablets, aka the iPad? Like we concluded in the Galaxy Nexus review, this version of Android is the most polished yet, and from a core functionality point of view it is robust and stable. It may not be as easy to navigate as iOS on the iPad, but some of the new tricks — improved multitasking, folders, etc. — do feel like a step above the experience you get on the iPad. However, the remaining issue is, and will continue to be, application options. Google can continue to polish and improve Android for tablets, but until there's a significant uptick in tablet app quantity and quality (that means optimizing for the larger screen) it won't be enough.
Note: During testing, the Transformer Prime fell off my bed causing the LCD to die. I will let you infer what this means about the durability of the tablet, but I want to thank LAPTOP Magazine for lending me their unit to shoot the video below.
We're having some issues with our rating tools right now, but below is the revised score of the Prime with Android 4.0.



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What is your review of the actual ice cream sandwich from the lead photo?
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 11:57 AM EST reply Recommend (32) Flag actions
I got one on launch day, so I can tell you. Slightly sticky outside, smooth and cool inside. Overall a delicious update.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:35 PM EST via mobile reply Recommend (23) Flag actions
10/10 : Attractive UI.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:58 PM EST reply Recommend (4) Flag actions
Question,
Is Tablet optimized still a concern with ICS? I am no dev, but everything from google on ICS seemed to give me the idea that if an app is optimized for ICS then it is optimized for both phones and tablets???
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 4:48 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
When writing android layouts you have different layout selectors available for different DPI’s. The developer has to code this compatibility in, apps don’t just scale themselves. Although with the introduction of fragments in Android 3 it does make this much much easier on the Dev.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 6:01 PM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
Honeycomb and ICS have an option to auto-scale.
Posted on Feb 01, 2012 | 6:55 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Writing specifically for a tablet will always be better than relying on scaling.
Posted on Jan 27, 2012 | 12:57 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
“I am no dev”
Is that why youo expect others to explain what you could just go and read off the sdk website ?
Posted on Jan 27, 2012 | 1:02 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I left mine outside for a couple hours (accidentally, of course) and ever since then it’s been really buggy.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 2:45 PM EST reply Recommend (13) Flag actions
That is a sad looking ICS. You couldn’t find an ICS that was in better shape to take the photo?
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 11:57 AM EST reply Recommend (8) Flag actions
Blame this guy: http://www.theverge.com/users/patbits
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:06 PM EST reply Recommend (15) Flag actions
Blame these guys: http://www.wholefoodsmarket.com/
It is IMPOSSIBLE to find an ice cream sandwich in New York in January.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:11 PM EST reply Recommend (17) Flag actions
Thats the problem, you went to Whole Foods! And it is not that hard to get an ICS, in New York you can get anything anytime of year.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:18 PM EST reply Recommend (3) Flag actions
Don’t try and hide the fact that you’re clearly incapable of finding quality/well-shaped desserts, Patrick. We’re on to you.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:26 PM EST reply Recommend (3) Flag actions
IMPOSSIBLE, you say?
Best Ice cream sandwiches in NYC: http://newyork.seriouseats.com/2011/07/best-ice-cream-sandwiches-in-nyc-new-york-city-manhattan-brooklyn.html
NYC Ice Cream Sandwich Taste Test: http://nymag.com/restaurants/features/19384/
And the coup de grâce, a 24-hour on-demand delivery service for Ice Cream Sandwiches in NYC : http://www.urbandaddy.com/nyc/food/12187/Melt_Bakery_Your_Ice_Cream_Sandwich_Delivery_Hookup_New_York_City_NYC_Restaurant
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:34 PM EST reply Recommend (24) Flag actions
Internal trollfest. I love the Verge.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:49 PM EST reply Recommend (23) Flag actions
Shout out for Coolhaus, which has had a NY truck for a while.
https://twitter.com/#!/CoolhausNY
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 1:04 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Oh man. I really wanted to rip the 24 hour thing, but Guiness ice cream in salted peanut cookies? ALL of the awesome. All of it.
Oh god. Malted chocolate rum.
And… Oh. Well thanks, Miller. Thanks a bunch. Those flavours are no longer available. (Snap fingers and flounce out)
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 1:23 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:38 PM EST reply Recommend (5) Flag actions
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 1:11 PM EST reply Recommend (8) Flag actions
If it’s from Whole Foods then it’s a Soy Milk Ice Cream Sandwich.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 1:25 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Here’s your NYC Ice Cream Sandwich right here
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 1:27 PM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
“You can live on it, but it tastes like shit”
Linda Kowalski, Crocodile Dundee
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 2:07 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Any bodega would have been fine, no?
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 3:17 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
You know, now that I think about it. It kind of is illustrative of your review of ICS on the TFP. It’s not perfect, a little rough around the edges (like where the app drawer is located), but overall, it’s still a good treat. Way to go, Joanna! You nailed it! :)
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:49 PM EST reply Recommend (8) Flag actions
Finally someone who understands Patrick Austin’s thinking.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 1:42 PM EST reply Recommend (4) Flag actions
I look up Patrick Austin and get some pedophile.
Posted on Feb 01, 2012 | 7:02 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
You can create a shortcut to the apps drawer anywhere you want.
Posted on Jan 27, 2012 | 1:04 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
It should have had a bite taken out of it :3
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:14 PM EST via mobile reply Recommend Flag actions
That would have been copyright infringement on a certain logo with a bite taken out of it (sorry)
Posted on Jan 27, 2012 | 9:18 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I imagine someone ate all the good looking ones
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 5:26 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
that looks tasty
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 11:58 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
“Note: During testing, the Transformer Prime fell off my bed causing the LCD to die. I will let you infer what this means about the durability of the tablet, but I want to thank LAPTOP Magazine for lending me their unit to shoot the video below.”
In situations like this, who is held liable? The reviewer? The Verge? Does anyone have to come out of pocket?
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 11:59 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
It’s a good question. In this case, it seems simple enough for Asus to just open it up and reconnect the LCD connector. They have been nice enough to fix it!
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:02 PM EST reply Recommend (5) Flag actions
“Oh no! This ice cream sandwich has melted all over the tablet and now it won’t turn on.. um.. I mean.. " CRASH “oops it fell of the bed”
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:48 PM EST reply Recommend (12) Flag actions
I hope its just a defective unit, most ribbon LCD connectors actually have a clamp on the plug which tightly holds them in place.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 1:00 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
I was just curious if the fall was to a carpeted floor, or hardwood? My inference about durability would be contingent on having that information. The former would surprise me, but the later might not.
(Of course, if it were the top bunk on a bunk bed, then either would be irrelevant. )
Posted on Feb 03, 2012 | 6:43 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I see some auto-filtering/editing of posts is going on here. At least the word ‘grin’ in angled brackets got stripped from the end of my previous post.
Posted on Feb 03, 2012 | 6:45 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Since you did the review for the Transformer Prime, would you change one or two scores after the ICS update?
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:00 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Yes, stay tuned. Working on a new score now.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:03 PM EST reply Recommend (5) Flag actions
Cool, looking forward to it.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:25 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Snap. Though not all good things come in silver bullets. I’m glad to see a what looks like a fully usable Android tablet which could likely do for many short trips, and perhaps even a few of duration. Thanks for the review SternBurn. =)
Posted on Jan 27, 2012 | 2:50 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Is The Verge going to re-review every device once a new software update is available?
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:02 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I think this is a special case because the product had been delayed already and that is why ASUS released it with HC onboard and a clear message that it is intended for use with ICS and the update would be shortly available. If anything, they should have held off reviewing the tablet until ICS was available for it. I’m not suggesting that they should have done that, but it makes more sense to have a single review of how the tablet functions under ICS than one of how it functions with HC.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 1:14 PM EST reply Recommend (4) Flag actions
Great article, Joanna! Still undecided on a new Android tablet. I think I want to hold out, see what Google has up it’s sleeves. As well as the iPad 3. Pretty sure I’m going to have one of both platforms though — gadget fiend here.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:02 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Android has so few tablet optimised apps, even webOS has more.
This needs to change in order to attract key & worthwhile customer demographics else you’re just going to be left with the freeloaders on their Froyo & Gingerbread cheap Chinese tablets & the formatn could be hamstrung for years with devs waiting for proper paying customers & those proper paying customers waiting for the devs to make tablet apps.
I really want this, or similar but I’ll sit out and see if the platform matures or not.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:02 PM EST reply Recommend (3) Flag actions
I don’t understand your conclusions on this. You say ICS is not the silver bullet yet your only gripe seems to be apps? Surely that is a dev problem not a google problem?
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:03 PM EST reply Recommend (7) Flag actions
Whose fault is it that the devs have a problem?
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:08 PM EST reply Recommend (3) Flag actions
The devs don’t have a problem, their just arent as many android tablets as their are ipad ones so they haven’t been interested yet. I don’t think that is particularly because google has a bad OS though, and joanna confirmed that in this review.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:14 PM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
Volume of tablets isn’t a lot to do with it, when iPad went on sale devs were busy making Apps, even the HP Touchpad has over 1,000 tablet optimised Apps.
There are far more Android tablets out there now than there were iPads in its launch period & of course Touchpads.
Wonder if it’s the problem of developing for different devices with different chipsets for different screen sizes with different pixel densities coupled with a userbase that is often reluctant to get their wallet out & is happy to make do with free alternatives or even unoptimised apps, if this is the case then Google needs to do more, if not then the devs just need to bite the bullet & get on with it, starting with the bigger ones like EA and Gameloft etc
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:21 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
That can’t possibly be it. Fragmentation is not a problem. Android users are happy to pay for apps. Google has made a great developer ecosystem. These are not the droids you’re looking for…
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:24 PM EST reply Recommend (6) Flag actions
I honestly can’t even think of 1,000 apps that need to be “tablet optimized”. I don’t get it. How many actually “tablet optimized” apps do you need?
I don’t make/edit photos or videos, so I can’t comment on that. But I can think of a “tablet” app for things like RSS feeds, news, sports news/videos, Gmail, twitter, facebook, Google Currents, etc.
Basically I can’t think of too many more “Tablet optimized” apps I need, let alone something in the 1,000s.
I’ve only sporadically used an iPad, so I can’t comment on the actual app selection, but I just don’t see what they have that I could possibly need?
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 1:19 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Well I for one would like to see more photo editing apps on Android tabs.. The selection on iOS puts it to shame. Although the Samsung commercials knock the whole “creative” thing with Apple.. its true. You can create more on iPad than Android tabs..(Garage Band, video/photo editing, DJ apps, etc)
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 1:29 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Photoshop came out with a fantastic Honeycomb app not too long ago. Also PicSay Pro is a very creative photo editing app.
Garagae band? Please, that’s one of the those you use it for a month, show your friends how much fun it is and then off the virtualy attic to collect virtual dust.
Please……. garage band.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 2:16 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
As a musician I can lay down quick ideas in my head in Garageband with a nice assortment of instruments and even the “virtual” ones can give me some ideas or let me quickly try sequences of chords.
Photoshop? All i do with image editing apps is show my friends hey look you can draw on a tablet and then don’t use it much afterward.
Moral of the story: not everyone’s needs are the same as yours. But it seems like right now the iPad caters overall to more of them. Glad you feel good about yourself for dismissing other people’s interests though.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 5:44 PM EST reply Recommend (4) Flag actions
I get creating, but not everyone creates. I certainly don’t. And yes there are photo-editing apps like Photoshop. Snapseed is on it’s way to Android as well.
I just don’t understand why there is this race to some large number of “tablet apps”.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 3:25 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Consumption is better on the iPad too…
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 6:19 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
How so?
I have Netflix, a video player that has played everything I’ve thrown at it, Google Music which plays my music fine (with plenty of other music players available too), an RSS reader in Feedly that suits my needs perfectly, along with other things available like Hulu Plus., HBO Go, etc.
Plus, I like the wide-screen aspect ratio better, especially when watching things on Netflix.
So I’m not sure how much “better” consumption could be?
The only thing I can think of is if your talking about gaming, in which I have always conceded that iOS was ahead. But honestly there are enough games to keep me busy when I’m traveling, especially with emulators and OnLive.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 7:28 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
Lol. It’s funny cause he said Garage Band..
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 5:31 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Because apps that people will use a lot (Facebook and Twitter) look ridiculous on an Android Tablet.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 1:31 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I use Friendcaster for FB. Yes both official FB and Twitter look ridiculous.. But didnt FB only recently release the official FB iPad app?
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 1:52 PM EST reply Recommend (3) Flag actions
yes
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 3:22 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
“Android Tablet” not iPad
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 9:21 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I actually just bookmark Facebook and then add the book mark to my home page, it’s Icon appeas (same as it does the app) and there I go, all set.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 2:17 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Which is fine and dandy but everyday people love “apps” now. Especially if they know someone with an iPad they want a similar experience or they will just buy an iPad.
Site note: When I speak in generalities I’m not talking about the Vergeinators here but the average mom, dad, teenager and ex-roomate’s dog.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 9:23 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Facebook’s official tablet app for iOS just recently came out. Something like Friendcaster for android serves as a pretty good tablet implementation of Facebook.
Same thing with other Twitter clients.
There are developers filling the void of “official” tablet apps if those companies don’t want to do it.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 3:22 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
Facebook’s app is a POS on any platfrom, 3rd party is best. (Friendcaster is my fav to on my tablet and phone)
Posted on Jan 27, 2012 | 1:06 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I think the point is that every app that could possibly gain from being optimized for a larger screen, should be. I don’t think counting the exact number is the most important thing. Whatever subset of the total # of apps someone uses, it would be nice to have those take advantage of a tablet.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 5:47 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
The general public will never separate the two. Google needs to make developing for Android more attractive for developers. They also need massively improve their developer support. The app selection will eventually make or break the Android tablet market, Google needs to step up and make some changes in order to make it a viable competitor to Apple’s hugely lucrative app market.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:18 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
It will only be a detriment to those Devs who do not update their apps fast enough. I personally encourage any app developer keen to make tablet apps for the Android to remake apps for the same purpose as those by devs who do not update.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 4:46 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
You’re kind of missing the point…
Unless you actually want a market full of half baked knock offs…
Android users also need to show they’re willing to pay for premium apps…
Posted on Jan 27, 2012 | 1:19 AM EST via mobile reply Recommend Flag actions
It’s a problem that Google created because it rushed Honeycomb so quickly, that they decided not to provide an easy path to make a phone app become a tablet app in the same apk. Plus, since it’s going to take forever for a meaningful number of devices to have ICS (about a year by my guess), it’s incredibly hard to write an app that works in 2.2, then also takes advantage of 4.0.
With 4.x only being 0.1% of all Android devices and only officially available on two devices, it’s easy to see why developers aren’t jumping to support this new OS which almost no one has.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:20 PM EST via mobile reply Recommend (6) Flag actions
That is a HUGE problem for Android.
Look at IOS, many apps are updated and ready to leverage the new features of the next version OS BEFORE it is released to general public.
With Android, you always feel left behind.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 2:22 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
there has always been an easy path to make a phone app become a tablet app in the same apk but android does that in a very different way than ios. you need to build an app that has an adaptive ui and runs on both devices instead of having to apps an packaging them together. the obvious benefit is that all the app logic stays the same and you don’t have to maintain two diverging code bases.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 4:28 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
You do not have to maintain two code bases in iOS. Universal apps are not two apps packaged together. It too takes techniques to adapt the app to either device. (having two views for example, but sharing most of the same underlying code- the app logic as you said).
The difference is, it needs much less “complex” adaptation because there are literally two physical device sizes to account for. So of course you don’t need to do a lot of proportional positioning and things that you’d have to do on Android with its “infinite” variability.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 5:54 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
Also it doesn’t help that an iPad 2 runs buttery smooth with older hardware than the newest Android tablets because iOS is just optimized much better. The average person who demo’s both will more likely be drawn to an iPad because of two things:
1. It’s idiot proof. It has a big physical button to go back to a screen with rows of icons.
2. As stated above “It’s buttah baby” in operation. I’ve yet to use an Android device with 100% smooth scrolling/zooming/loading.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 9:26 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
It’s a platform problem.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:31 PM EST via mobile reply Recommend Flag actions
Who cares who’s at fault Who suffers? The customer.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:37 PM EST reply Recommend (3) Flag actions
I dont know anyone who thought ICS would be a “silver bullet” that somehow made thousands more apps available for tablets.. silly statement
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 1:15 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
Didn’t Eric Schmidt say that ICS would cause developers to develop for Android first and iOS second by mid-2012? Or were you being sarcastic? Sorry… hard to tell sometimes in text.
Posted on Jan 27, 2012 | 12:32 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Still looking forward to the ICS update for my TF101 but I do agree the lack of Tablet apps for Android is disappointing.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:03 PM EST reply Recommend (5) Flag actions
Hah! Love the ice cream sandwich on top of Ice Cream Sandwich.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:05 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Does The Verge have a refrigerator full of ice-cream sandwich?
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:06 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
why would you put phones in a refrigerator?? :P
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:07 PM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
Why would you put ice cream in a refrigerator?
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:13 PM EST reply Recommend (9) Flag actions
And are they stockpiling jello (?) in readiness for the next release?!
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:13 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Prolly more along the lines of jelly donuts, since nobody likes jell-o
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 5:34 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Hey, I like jell-o! Especially in a glass and a little frozen along the edges :)
Posted on Jan 27, 2012 | 12:34 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I thought about that, but V 1.6 was Donut, so that seems a little unlikely. Then again, Jello is a trademark, right?
Posted on Jan 27, 2012 | 10:45 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I’ve had ICS on a tablet for a week! cough HP Touchpad cough
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:08 PM EST reply Recommend (5) Flag actions
HP TouchPad FTW!
Loving ICS on mine. But the lack of popular apps being tablet optimized is annoying.
Posted on Jan 27, 2012 | 12:15 AM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
besides Facebook and Twitter was popular apps are you referring too? I find that most popular mainstream apps have already been updated to work on Android Tablets.
Posted on Jan 27, 2012 | 9:37 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I’ve got this bad boy and upgraded to ICS pretty promptly. I’ve been loving it. You’re totally right about the lack of optimized apps in general, but I’ve found that a lot of apps scale well functionality-wise, if not beautifully, as long as they are relatively simple content-based apps. ReadItLater works pretty well, for instance. Facebook isn’t bad either, except that the app is terrible to begin with. I imagine this is a product of Android devs having to build their apps to have to scale to wildly different phone resolutions from the very beginning. I just like how it scales apps by reflowing content, rather than just zooming the resolution to a pixelated mess.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:13 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Screen resolution is annoying, but it’s mostly about the fragmentation between OS versions and internal hardware (each tablet having a seemingly different SoC and other important internal differences).
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:42 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
it’s interesting how you put the good fragmentation “each tablet having a seemingly different SoC and other important internal differences” and the bad fragmentation “fragmentation between OS versions” in the same sentence
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 4:29 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Both cause additional complications for a programmer. If you’re asking me to order them, OS fragmentation is easily the worst.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 5:07 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
of course different hardware doesn’t make it easier for the programmer but it is the only way to get an eco system with competition in it
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 5:32 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I’ve had the prime for about a week now and an iPad 2 since it launched. I personally tend to prefer the prime over my iPad. The main reason being ICS. While the app selection for iOS is definitely eleventy bajillion times better iOS as a tablet OS doesn’t do a very good job. The larger screen could be used for something more than presenting an additional row of icons. Even the multitasking view is the same as a 3.5 inch screen. While I understand Apple’s desire to have a consistent interaction paradigm, this just seems lazy, Even apps tweak their interactions when they go from the iPhone to iPad. I hate that to accomplish anything worthwhile you have to go into an app as opposed to the larger screen size allowing you customize your experience a little bit.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:13 PM EST reply Recommend (3) Flag actions
I would argue that iOS is a better tablet OS than it is a phone OS. I think the whole point of getting a tablet is to run well designed full screen touch optimized apps and to be able to switch between those apps quickly.
I find that users put too much stock into the homescreen experience. Homescreens don’t get things done, apps do. iOS follows this philosophy by the sheer fact that the homescreens are just that, an app launcher.
Posted on Jan 27, 2012 | 2:26 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Like I said iOS has better tablet apps which is why I still have and use my iPad. I love it. However I do feel that the whole open-an-app-to-accomplish-anything approach is counter productive. There are times when I just want to tap the home button take a quick look at my messages/email/notifications and go. iOS in the current state even with the notification center does not allow this.
Posted on Jan 27, 2012 | 8:51 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Why don’t you jailbreak it? Absinthe is available for both Windows and Macs now. Jailbreak the iPad 2 and customize it however you wish.
Posted on Jan 27, 2012 | 1:26 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
because I upgraded to 5.1 beta :(
Posted on Jan 27, 2012 | 2:10 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I disagree. The open-an-app approach I think works fine for tablets. Most of the time, do do anything meaningful, you will need to open an app like Email, Twitter, etc. Even with widgets, I still use them as glorified app shortcuts. I would rather jump into the app to do anything actually productive.
Widgets help a little, but they don’t have enough functionality outside of doing quick posts.
I will agree, iOS still needs a meaningful lock screen.
Posted on Jan 28, 2012 | 10:07 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
i disagree, homes screens that you create to fit your theme, ; the use of weather, email and calender widgets on your homescreen and the more customization just makes your device feell so much more engaging.
I just find iOS to be too bare bones. Your right it’s simply an app launcher,
Posted on Jan 27, 2012 | 9:41 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I don’t find widgets engaging on tablets at all. On phones they make more sense due to the smaller form and the on-the-go perpective that the mobile device takes. Even then, I still find widgets largely redundant, battery draining and useless.
On tablets, widgets are too distracting and in the way of what I really want to do, use full screen apps to be productive or view media. Tablets aren’t mobile phones, they are too big and cumbersome to do on-off quick glances like you do on a phone. Tablets are best when a user is settled and can enjoy the large screen in leisure.
Posted on Jan 28, 2012 | 10:13 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
YOU TRANSFORMER PRIME KILLER!
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:15 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:15 PM EST reply Recommend (11) Flag actions
You cannot say that Android ICS is not good because the official Twitter & Facebook apps are bad on tablets (also bad on phones like any non-native Android apps).
There are a lot of tablet optimized apps on Android now and even if it’s not as much as iOS, it’s already quite nice.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:16 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Facebook is awful no matter what platform ,its such a clusterf**k.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 1:02 PM EST reply Recommend (3) Flag actions
This is a really tiny gripe but why do some of the apps use the old overflow menu icon? It’s there in the browser and gmail but the gallery seems to have the new one.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:16 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
" can’t say exactly what it is that is holding some of these app developers back from developing tablet apps for Android"
I imagine it’s related to the fact that Android tablets aren’t really selling.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:19 PM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
I still havent found an elegant way to support Android 2.2 and use Android 4.0 features in the same apk. Using conditional statements would basically make me rewrite the entire app again, and I’d have to ignore 3.x, hoping that they’ll all be upgradable to 4.0. But it’s a ton of work compared to iOS, which is why you aren’t seeing developers just jump at the opportunity to do so.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:25 PM EST via mobile reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
No no no. There is no fragmentation on Android. Sigh.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:25 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Answered a bit down. http://beta.abs.io/ kicks ass.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:53 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Hard to tell (some sites seem to assume it but nothing confirmed), but do those numbers,if even true, include the Kindle Fire? If so, that’s an even worse indicator for getting ICS specific tablet apps written…
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 6:08 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Kindle Fire isn’t going to show up on Google’s Android SDK Distribution statistics because they only measure devices that have accessed the Android Market in the last 30 days. The Fire has no access to the Market, and those won’t show up.
Posted on Jan 27, 2012 | 1:49 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Android has already taken 39% of the tablet market & that’s without a proper tablet OS, until now.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:32 PM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
Where are you getting these ridiculous numbers?
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:53 PM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
From “ridiculous” places like the BBC ;)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-16736609
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 1:18 PM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
Granted thats last 3 months of 2010..
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 1:19 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
2011. Impressive. Well, they ain’t bad so there aren’t many reasons to not buy an Android-based tablet but I thought they are further back from the iPad. I could only presume thing will go back to normal with iPad 3?
However, I will wait for the fully function Win8 on a transformer-type tablet. This is going to be great.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 1:22 PM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
I expect that there is quite a bit of pent up demand out there for Windows 8 tablets—be they “Ultra” or otherwise.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 2:42 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I wouldn’t invest in a windows OS if it doesn’t have keyboard and a trackpad as a dock + nice connectivity comming from it. What are you paying for then when the metro-style can be done on Android/iPad comfortably if you don’t have an ASUS-like dock?
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 2:48 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I was actually referring to Transformer style tablets and convertible “ultra-tablets” running Windows 8 that are inevitably on the way. I know that I’m very much looking forward to seeing what they have to offer on both x86 and ARM platforms.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 3:37 PM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
That doesn’t answer my question at all. I don’t care which website cited the numbers, I want to know the source of the numbers.
Android tablet marketshare numbers are just guesswork:
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 1:43 PM EST reply Recommend (5) Flag actions
You can’t spell bat shit insane Analyst without Anal.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 1:52 PM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
Well if you actually read the article it cites Stategy Analyitcs as the source. Its an AP story, all over the place today except the Verge :)
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 1:54 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
The article I cited is criticizing the Strategy Analytics numbers. Google and Samsung don’t release any data, so the numbers have to be drawn from other sources (which are invariably unreliable). Drawing conclusions about marketshare from that faux evidence is really irresponsible, so I’m glad the Verge isn’t endorsing the numbers (just like the credible analyst don’t seem to be endorsing the numbers).
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 2:52 PM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
Horace Dediu (the analyst who got close with the estimated Apple Q1 2012 figures) is agreeing with him. These ‘guestimations’ are not adding up.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 1:57 PM EST reply Recommend (3) Flag actions
Dingdingdingdingding! We have a winner!
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 7:31 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Don’t be pedantic. htx told you where he got the numbers. Just because you don’t like the numbers doesn’t mean he didn’t answer your question.
I’m sure Enders Analysis is a fine firm, but their bullshit speculation in no way trumps BBC’s bullshit speculation.
I think the only conclusions that can be drawn from the information available are that iOS Tablet sales have been much greater than Android tablet sales and that Android tablet sales have not been entirely insignificant. I heard bullshitters speculating about only 1 million Android tablets sold last year, and obviously that isn’t the case.
Posted on Jan 27, 2012 | 11:21 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
actually that report has been posted on multiple tech sites this morning but why is it with Apple fans it’s always about the numbers when speaking of the iPad or iPhone?
I find this ironic, iFans will base whether a tablet is good or not based on sales but yet Window’s based PC’s have a much greater gap in sales with MAC then iPads do with Android Tablets.
just plain bizarre.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 1:53 PM EST reply Recommend (5) Flag actions
It is the same way specs do not matter but the thinness and retina display do. Fanboys of any variety are strange to normal folks.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 2:04 PM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
Spec does not matter because both IOS and WP7 require less hardware horse power to have great user experience.
Display of course matters. Screen quality IMO is one of the most important criteria when choosing a smart phone.
And yes, fanboy sucks.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 5:28 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
Ics changed all that. The alpha build runs perfect and butter smooth on my old d2g
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 5:39 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
So it’s been posted everywhere. And monkeys fling their poop everywhere. What’s the difference? It’s still poop. Strategy Analytics seems to make a profession out of pulling garbage numbers out of their collective butts then presenting them as if they’re the literal accurate truth. Shame on the tech sites that parrot their garbage, and more shame on the PHBs that keep SA in business.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 7:36 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
This cannot possibly be true :)
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 1:15 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
This whole thing is so funny. I’ve stated before that I own Apple products as well, but I don’t understand how people can say that they don’t think Android tablets are selling. Of the people that I know and work with who own tablets at all (real world here—not a tech blog or an artist hangout…:-)), the majority own Android tablets and only one or two friends or family members own I pads. Several Galaxy tabs and Transformers, a couple of A500s (including mine) a Touchpad and a lot of Kindle Fires…
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 2:51 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I’m glad about it… Prime is my favorite so far (well if it had 3g or at least working GPS……….), but I guess that’s going to be fixed soon. Anyway, happy for Android and looking forward to Win8 tablets on both X86 and ARM. Having iPads only around is about as fun to watch as is american football for an European! :)
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 3:21 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
the more choices we have the harder they push to outdo each other, in the end the consumer wins.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 4:32 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
Its not what people say, just look at quarterly reports from those companies.
Kindles fire is the only one that sells in significant number.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 5:33 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
Hmmm. My real-world experience is the EXACT opposite. I just counted them up, and I know 26 people who own iPads. I know exactly ONE person who owns an Android tablet. And a few that now own Kindle Fires, which I think fall into their own category. I’m not saying you’re lying, but I really doubt your story. It doesn’t pass the smell test.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 7:38 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
Technically, if you doubt his story, you think he’s lying. It’s OK though man, feel the hate course through you. Embrace the power of the dark side.
I know one person with an iPad and one person with a Fire. I’m going to assume that both of y’all’s stories are true.
Posted on Jan 27, 2012 | 11:28 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Except that they actually are now… Hmmm…
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 2:39 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
aren’t they?
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/26/strategy-analytics-apple-still-owns-tablet-market-but-android/
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 4:31 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Personally the lack of dedicated tablet apps doesn’t/hasn’t bothered me. If it in some way meant apps weren’t available or didn’t work then I’d have an issue, but that’s not the case.
Sure there could be more optimized apps, but they’ll get there in time. I’m not going to say that the “less pretty” app selection for Android tablets is a deterrent from their ecosystem.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:20 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
I wish my Samsung Tablet that I got at Google IO got updated to update to ICS. I am Still Stuck at 3.1 .
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:23 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
A tablet you got given?
my heart bleeds ;)
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:33 PM EST reply Recommend (5) Flag actions
Do it yourself?
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:50 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
It’s surely not a great surprise that there aren’t suddenly a whole load more tablet optimised apps? I seem to recall that it took quite a while for iPad specific apps to surface. Hopefully the situation will improve over time.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:24 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I ported my iPhone app to the iPad with zero knowledge about how to do so in 4 days. I’ve been looking for weeks on how to support Android 2.2 (what most phones have) while still taking advantage of Android 4.0 features. The problem I see is that 4.0 isn’t going to be significant in terms of % of Andriod installations until the end of the year (just like 2.3 is only at 60% now), and there are major devices that will never get upgraded. Smaller developers and customers get screwed when OEMs take forever to update devices because developers can’t aggressively use new features without older users complaining.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:29 PM EST via mobile reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
What’s your App?
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:41 PM EST reply Recommend (3) Flag actions
While I haven’t published an app, I have played around with xcode and it is ridiculously easy to port apps from phones to tablets. You just need to create a tablet specific “view,” and everything hooks easily into your existing code.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 1:11 PM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
ActionBarSherlock is the answer. I’ve been using that ActionBar framework for a while.
http://beta.abs.io is the spot you need to check for the 4.0-enabled, reworked library that will help you have Holo on all the things and a Native interface on all the screens. Tested on tabs, it works. :D
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:52 PM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
it should be pretty easy, you just set targetsdkversion to 15 and before doing anything that is just possible with ics your code has to check if it is currently running on an ics device
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 4:50 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
At the end of the day the OEM’s are the ones that will screw themselves over. Oversaturating the market is good short term but really bad long term. It gets real old real fast seeing a new moto device every week..
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 5:42 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
iPad specific apps were available in the app store a few days before the iPad was actually released.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 6:48 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Your sandwich is melting.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:27 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I agree that there is a lack of tablet optimized apps for ICS (android in general), but I wouldn’t include Facebook & Twitter. On a 10" screen, use the browser! I have Twitter and Facebook bookmarks on my Transformer Prime home screen, not apps.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:38 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
I can’t wait till this thing gets the Strawberry Parfait update.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:53 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
An SP update to Android? surely you jest!
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:54 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Joanna when you state: "The Browser now has a “Request Desktop Site” setting, which is a godsend for those who continuously have had to look for that “go to full site” button on webpages."
How is this any different than 3.2? There is already a setting to change user agent in the stock browser
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:54 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Yeah, but it was in a menu in the preferences.
Now it’s just under the menu call-up button, which is nicer and faster.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 12:56 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
Ok thanks for the clarification..
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 1:01 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I swear you don’t get ice cream sandwiches in the UK, they look so tasty… :(
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 1:10 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I’m not sure why the confusion over having buttons on the corner and not the middle. It’s much easier when holding the tablet in horizontal orientation to hit side/corner buttons with your thumb while still holding the tablet…
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 1:13 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I don’t get either, I love the use of the four corners. I can’t stand using my wife’s iPad, I’m always looking for a back button, Drive’s me bonkers.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 1:33 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
The horizontal orientation is just built for two hands. I LOVED using the thumb controls on the default android browser (although I use Dolphin now, the controls work great on ICS on the Nexus).
I also use thumb keyboard to type (before Apple came out with their own version) because once again it just makes sense for two handed operation.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 3:29 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Constructive criticism Joanna, please don’t just talk about features, we can read a features list on the Android Developers website, what we need is opinion, Is it faster? Is it smoother? Does it feel nicer? Are the new animations better? Does it worsen or improve compatibility with apps on tablets? What should they add or improve? What about the Asus added functionality? etc. This was very boring to read/watch tbh. Make it more interesting
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 1:20 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
I think she answered all that, she said it felt snappier, more polished, better stock browser etc.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 1:34 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Most reviews are boring to watch. The reviewers just don’t get it. They spend half their video previews/reviews twisting and turning the device, pointing out what ports and hardware specs the device has. They hardly spend any time in the browser, which is where people spend most of their time are.
The concept of overall smoothness and fluidity is foreign to them. They don’t understand why it’s so important to most users. Try opening theverge.com on ICS and pan and zoom in/out while images are loading. It freezes, stutters, hiccups, vomits all over your shirt. Also carefully observe the stock browser as it scrolls through a website. It seems to be skipping frames in order to create an illusion of fluidity. Or maybe it’s locked at 30 fps. I’m not sure exactly what it is, but it’s most definitely not “smooth”.
I used to play Enemy Territory at a relatively high level. My eyes are trained to notice anything short of perfect fluidity and speed. I think most consumers unconsciously sense it as well. But even if they didn’t, the fact that ICS still experiences garbage collection hiccups and frame stuttering is enough to turn the average person away.
Worst of all is using the OS after a couple months, when you’ve loaded up a bunch of apps. Resources will be consumed in the background and slow down the OS considerably.
Posted on Jan 27, 2012 | 1:38 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
It is funny to complain about white space in apps when The Verge comments are in a column that only uses about 1/3 of the screen width. Just saying.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 1:30 PM EST reply Recommend (13) Flag actions
true story, when is the Verge going to opimize it’s website for 16:10 computer screens.
TONS of white space.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 1:35 PM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
Even more than this seems to show since the image isn’t scaled correctly.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 1:41 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Classic
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 2:11 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I have no problem with the white space on the Verge comments, but the way the Twitter app re-flows the text, wrapping the word only when it reaches the end of the tablet is really annoying and requires you to flip the tablet (something I don’t have to do with my computer monitor) in order to get a more optimal reading experience. Typography 101 and common sense would teach that people just don’t like reading long single lines of text like that, they prefer a break to the next line sooner. Another negative is that it becomes especially hard to seek out information in that format.
Could The Verge’s site use its space more effectively? Maybe; However, I would say that The Verge is actually one of the few sites that, overall, has at least a little focus on the overall purposeful placement of white-space in web site design, a characteristic that few sites take advantage of because of the necessity to throw information in people’s faces. Look at it this way: at least I can still read The Verge’s comments with minimal problems in both orientations. Regardless, does any failure on The Verge’s design mean that the Twitter app is great? absolutely not. It’s far worse than this, where readability is drastically impaired by the outrageous lack of margins. Joanna Stern is in the right to call them out on it, too, although the “amount” of white space might not technically be so much of an issue here (although, it’s more of an issue with tablets, where an app is designed specifically for its usable screen area) but rather the lack of its well-use.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 9:02 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I wish desktop browsers had text reflow the way Android browsers do. It’s such a beautiful and useful feature. It’s also the main reason I avoid iOS and WP7.
Posted on Jan 27, 2012 | 1:40 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
there are lot more tablet apps for Android then is givin credit for. I was an early adopter and I don’t thin a week doesn’t go by when I’m getting updates for most of my apps havign them to support Honecomb.
I do agree Facebook and Twitter are two major apps missing but to judge the entire ecosytem on only these two appss is a bit short sighted.
What this tells me is Joanna doesn’t use or the Verge doesn’t have a Honeycomb/ICS tablet for a daily use. And part of that is google’s fault as well. They have alot of tablet apps but your only guide is “Editor’s favorites” or something like that. But that selection doesn’t even come close to show off the number of tablet optimized apps.
too bad this old “con” of Android tablets is still being used today.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 1:31 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
Just read anandtech’s review of ICS.. amazing stuff
http://www.anandtech.com/show/5310/samsung-galaxy-nexus-ice-cream-sandwich-review
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 1:35 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
There’s nothing amazing – it should have been like that at least 6 months ago :)
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 1:37 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
It’s nice to want things before they’re ready.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 1:38 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Come on.. it’s highly detailed .. not just the a subjective review..If you see all the benchmark tests and kind of testing you’ll understand..
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 2:15 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I was referring to the OS, not the review, wow
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 2:17 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
How would you compare ICS on the TFP you write about here to the ICS update for the original Motorola Xoom? Don’t you have one of the Joanna? I am mostly please with the ICS update for my Xoom with a few exceptions.
1. The options in Google Talk to display all my contacts instead of just Google’s idea of “most popular” has now been merged with the sorting option so that I can’t see everyone unless I want offline people mixed with online.
2. Now it goes to the clock when I put it in the dock regardless of what I was doing on it (this make sense if the screen was off, but if I’m using an app, don’t kick me out).
3. Having to swipe strictly to the right to unlock now despite that the widget is still a circle.
4. Google Talk’s right alignment of the things that I say.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 1:46 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I dropped my original eee pad transformer off of a desk onto laminate and it cracked the Gorilla Glass but the lcd functions perfectly. Kind of sad but I’m posting this comment using it right now. Heh.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 1:48 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Should have gotten the one with Guerrilla glass.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 1:56 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
just on my Honeycomb tablet here is a list of tablet optimized apps
netflix
Flixster
iMDb
Fandango
Pandora
SoundHound
Google Music
Xfinity
Wiki
Pulse
Engadget ( Ohhhh yup, I’m looking at Verge)
Distro
YouTube
Google Talk
NFL 2011
MLB at Bat
Madden NFL ‘12
Nook
Kindle
Google Books
Zinio
USA Today
NYTimes
Cnn
Weather Channel
Google Maps/Navigation
Open Table
Angry Birds family
Google Earth
Google Sky
Google Body
Cut the Rope
Google Catalogs
PicSay Pro
Kayak ( i think, if not is scales wonderfully then)
Google Latitude
Talking Tom Cat
Skype
Super Note
Yelp ( like kayak, if not then it’s scales gorgous then)
and that’s not counting Apps that do scale very very well. And of course other people are also going to have a ton of optimized apps.
I wish someone at the verge would just own one , if only for research are updated information on Android Tablets.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 1:48 PM EST reply Recommend (5) Flag actions
Nice list:
I’d like to add:
Evernote
SpringPad
FriendCaster(Facebook app)
TweetCaster(Twitter App)
Ringtone
Wordpress
Math Blaster
Kid Mode
Dr. Seuss Books (Tons of Books)
Opera Browser
Google Currents (Awesome rss reader, beats browsing altogether)
IMDB (better on Android than iPad I think)
QuickOffice
Polaris Office
I own both iPad and Android.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 2:22 PM EST reply Recommend (3) Flag actions
I love iMDB on Android, it’s video quality is insane. The new Fandango update is really sweet as well. but for view trailier. iMDb is just out of this world. the widescreen tablest shine with this kind of stuff.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 2:23 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I’ll add
Anti paper Notes
Splashtop Remote HD
Plex Media Center
Beyondpod (podcast manager)
OnLive
FlightTracker
DC Metro Transit
Sketch and Draw
Kid’s Fingerpaint
and at least 20 or so HD, tablet optimzed games fro the likes of Gameloft, Art in Games, Madfinger, etc.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 4:19 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Stop. Please stop. This combined list is really sad. It just emphasizes how pathetic the situation is for Android tablet apps. It’s not even as good as the list for the iPad was in May 2010. Jeepers.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 7:48 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
are you a fool? We are listing OUR apps. Not the total list. Our point is there are a ton of mainstream, productive, and obscure apps available for tablets.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 10:40 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
“and that’s not counting Apps that do scale very very well. And of course other people are also going to have a ton of optimized apps.”
They’re trying to get the point across that there are tablet optimized apps, and the non-optimized ones tend to still look good.
You just sound mad
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 10:57 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
THANK YOU!!!
Posted on Jan 27, 2012 | 9:44 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I still don’t understand what is available for the iPad that makes the Android selection so pathetic?
Can I get a few examples besides “photo editing software A” or “Garage Band”?
Posted on Jan 27, 2012 | 10:47 AM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
Nope.
Posted on Jan 27, 2012 | 3:53 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
I should also say “besides facebook (which only recently came out) and twitter (which has third party solutions”
And games. But that’s a whole iOS v Android thing
Posted on Jan 27, 2012 | 6:13 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Joanna, of course ICS doesn’t solve the tablet apps problem on release. But eventually, it will since it allows apps to scale better between phone and tablet devices. This will make it easier for developers to write one app that works on both. And as boswd said, there are plenty of tablet apps available right now, and there lots of tablet games too. Android isn’t just trying to compete in the iPad market like Blackberry’s Tablet OS and HP’s WebOS, Android is here to stay and it is just a matter of time before it will own the tablet market just like it owns the smartphone market.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 2:44 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Android owns the smartphone market?
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 6:30 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Supernote is AWESOME for students. I use it on my Asus Transfomer combined with the keyboard dock. Great to reach up and just annotate right on my typed notes.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 3:31 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Not sure why you need apps on a tablet to be honest. Use that screen and use the full webpage! That’s what I do on my iPad 2. The Facebook app for iPad sucks hard, so do most apps when compared to full websites. ‘Apps’ are for small screens.
As an aside, I find my Galaxy Nexus on AOKP 4.0.3 is faster than the iPad 2 for browsing. Why I bring this up is 2012 is when we will really see a competitive tablet market now that Android 4/ICS is here. Even my old Galaxy S flies with pre-alpha ICS builds.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 1:58 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
That’s the most ridicolous statement in this thread.
That’s the second most ridicolous statement in this thread.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 6:33 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
I guess that Ice Cream Sandwich had bigger plans. Look at him, he (or she) is gett’n all geechy on us. Follow your dreams guys, because you just never know what goodness life has in store :P
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 1:58 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
ICS made my Xoom so much better. Apps are still very lacking though so I don’t use it that much.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 2:24 PM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
I only use my xoom when I poop. But i do like the live wallpaper. If it was there before I never noticed.
Posted on Jan 31, 2012 | 3:27 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
@Joanna – it’s ‘calendar,’ not ‘calender’.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 2:53 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
A tablet that traks you at all times with everything you do and sends that information to private corporations like JP Morgan… Where can I sign up?
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 3:17 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
My experience has been similar to The author.s on the Prime. However, for me the bigger problem has been finding widgets that are scaled for ICS on a Tablet (surprisingly few). Also another issue has been filling out the on screen real estate. with the new Awesome folders, it is so easy to keep everything organized and accessible, that I end up with large portions of empty screen and at least two completely unused desktops (for now).
BTW, did the desktop preview button disappear entirely with ICS, or is it an option that can be enabled somewhere? The option is not available on the ICS phone build for the GN, and it disappeared when the Prime updated to ICS.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 4:17 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
of course, kudos to Joanna for looking at the big picture…I just want ICS to web browse, email, play video, use the cameras for snapshots and videos, and, oh yea, browse the android market to download 3k relevant apps!
What do I care if there’s only 10k, 100k, 1000k apps out there on the market? did not know this was a contest to see how many apps can be developed by the various OS’s…how many are you gonna use daily? uh, 300?
talk about relevance…
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 4:20 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
@Joanna
It’ll be great if you can run battery test again.
I know this is an effort and time taking test. But I guess it is completely worth it, as this can also be used as comparison battery datasheet with other upgraded/newer/upcoming ICS Tablets.
Hope you’ll acknowledge the concern.
Anyways love your review perspective and realistic evaluation of the materialistic things.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 5:55 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
How can she? Her Prime cracked after it fell from a short height.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 6:34 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Review writing time was 26 Jan 11:20 AM and the fix confirmation comment time was 10:32 PM
So looks like it’s been fixed.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 6:57 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I wonder if there’s a review by Joanna that doesn’t mention the iPad.
Posted on Jan 26, 2012 | 9:44 PM EST via mobile reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
It’s the only logical comparison…or should all tech reviews be done in a vacuum? Everything would just get a perfect score then…
Posted on Jan 27, 2012 | 1:52 AM EST via mobile reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
I can’t stand all this nagging about apps on a tablet. You can use the browser. Twitter works fine in a browser, no? On a phone I can see why you would need an app to read other people random bullsh-t but on a large, high-res screen, why would you need it?
Posted on Jan 27, 2012 | 3:41 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I agree while specific apps are nice and everything, but if the app is really nothing more than a glorified mobile app, which many are, then how Honeycomb/ICS has the ability to create bookmark webpage, app icons, , it’s use of interactive bookmark widgets etc. basically make it a non issue in a lot of cases.
Posted on Jan 27, 2012 | 9:47 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Ms. Stern has mentioned the lack of tablet Facebook and Twitter apps a few times now. I wanted to mention that there are third-party tablet apps for these.
For Facebook, I use FriendCaster Pro (free version). For Twitter, there’s Plume, TweetCaster Pro (free version), and TweetComb.
Posted on Jan 27, 2012 | 9:47 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I’m the kind of person who don’t really feel the need of installing app IF you can load them fine on the browser.. ie, twitter, facebook, etc.. apps are meant for really “offline” matters only, for me..
PS. Dear Joanna, LAPTOP Magazine LEND you their device and YOU FELL IT OFF your bed??? Nice….. :D
Posted on Jan 29, 2012 | 11:12 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I mean, gods, Android STILL doesn’t have a tablet-optimized app for The Verge! ;)
Posted on Jan 30, 2012 | 6:04 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I’ve found the easiest way around the un-optimized Android tablet app problem is simply to use the “desktop” versions of the websites, i.e. Twitter, Facebook, etc. They work perfectly on the Transformer Prime (which you can’t say of the iPad’s browser) and often give you functionality that’s missing in the app versions. Yes, I’d love a version of the iPad Twitter app on my Prime, but until than I’ve just created web shortcuts to the full sites on my desktop. Problem solved.
Posted on Jan 30, 2012 | 7:14 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Truly the best android tablet anyone can get (as of now). It’s a shame no one was actually looking over this sexy tablet in a store i went to last week, rather most just went over to the iPad 2’s
I would get this in a heartbeat but i’m gonna hold myself back until the end of 2012 when we’ll know what windows 8 tablets are out, as well as the rumored nexus tablet (if you remember what Eric S. said a while back).
Posted on Jan 31, 2012 | 6:02 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
They’re called crashes or unhandled exceptions. Not “force closes”.
Posted on Jan 31, 2012 | 6:33 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I can’t believe you put a melting candy bar on your tablet.
Posted on Feb 01, 2012 | 6:44 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
<a href=“http:// ”http://myproffs.co.uk/index.php/comparisons/1520-asus-eee-pad-transformer-prime-vs-apple-ipad-2" target="_blank">http://myproffs.co.uk/index.php/comparisons/1520-asus-eee-pad-transformer-prime-vs-apple-ipad-2" >Asus Eee Pad Transformer Prime vs Apple iPad 2
Posted on Feb 04, 2012 | 7:36 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Asus Eee Pad Transformer Prime vs Apple iPad 2
Posted on Feb 04, 2012 | 7:38 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
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