Fujifilm announced a wide-ranging lineup of cameras for CES 2012 earlier today, but if Mirrorlessrumors is to be believed it was holding back a surprise. The site has the first shot and details of the X-Pro1 mirrorless camera, taken from French magazine Réponses Photo, with an allegedly leaked press release at Wells Fargo. Like the X100 and X10, the camera features a retro, rangefinder-influenced design, with an assortment of physical controls adorning the body. The camera uses a similar hybrid optical viewfinder to the X100 that will apparently shift field of view depending on the prime lens attached. About those lenses — they're made of metal, use Fuji's new proprietary X-mount, and three are currently slated for release: an 18mm f/2.0, 35mm f/1.4 and a 60mm f/2.4 macro. The camera has a large 16-megapixel APS-C sensor, so the lenses will be subject to a 1.5x crop factor. While it looks like they'll be a little bulkier than the X100's fixed 23mm f/2.0 lens, the X-Pro1 will obviously offer a lot more versatility. We'll be sure to let you know if and when we get confirmation of these details.
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DO WANT! Pleaseohpleaseohplease, be somewhat affordable. I’m still looking for a compact mirrorless cam to use with adapted legacy lenses, and being such a shallow, superficial human being I’d prefer it being pretty as well :)
Posted on Jan 05, 2012 | 7:59 AM EST reply Recommend (5) Flag actions
My goodness, couldn’t agree more. This thing is unbelievably attractive, from looks to specifications. That APS-C sensor with a 35mm f1.4 would have incredibly shallow DoF. If this is <$1000 with the 35mm f1.4 (not going to happen) I’ll be actually tempted to get it instead of upgrading to the as-yet-unannounced 5D III simply because of its convenience.
Posted on Jan 05, 2012 | 9:42 AM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
I’m tempted as well. I’ve been waiting for the 5D III, but if this significantly outperforms the 5D II for $1500 or less, it’s going to be hard to pass up.
Posted on Jan 05, 2012 | 9:58 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
It’s a gorgeous camera, but it won’t outperform the 5D Mark II due, in part, to the APS-C sensor.
Also, unless you plan on ditching the bevy of Canon lenses you have, I don’t think it will be worth it.
This camera won’t be cheap. The X100 has a street price of $1,199, so I would imagine this will cost around $1,500.
Posted on Jan 05, 2012 | 10:12 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
You’re probably correct. But I’m still optimistic (or just dreaming). I’d be surprised if low-light performance from this Fuji didn’t surpass that of the 5D II, and the APS-C size doesn’t inherently prevent it from offering at least the detail the 5D II has (I had my fingers crossed for APS-H though).
Posted on Jan 05, 2012 | 11:05 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
This isn’t a camera for the faint of heart or holders of light wallets that’s for sure. This line of cameras are like any piece of tech that you go to buy one, you see this and think “wow that’s amazing”, see the price, quickly go from shocked to depressed then buy something cheaper.
Posted on Jan 05, 2012 | 11:14 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I bought my X100 knowing it was a little pricey simply based on specs, but its a lovely camera to use – so immediate and looks beautiful.
You can’t just go by specs/price.
Posted on Jan 05, 2012 | 11:19 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Oh don’t get me wrong I’d love to own one but I fall into that stubborn “If it won’t fit in my pocket I might as well take my insert DSLR here with me” camp. So buying a secondary non-dslr camera for $1,100+ is just out of my price range.
Posted on Jan 05, 2012 | 11:51 AM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
I feel the same way. I initially bought a Panasonic GF1, but I sold that and got a “full size” dslr. I cant wait for a DSLR sized sensor in a camera the size of a S95 :) When will that happen??
Posted on Jan 05, 2012 | 11:54 AM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
When the laws of physics are broken ;)
Posted on Jan 05, 2012 | 12:35 PM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
sony’s nex series?
aps-c and small
Posted on Jan 05, 2012 | 1:13 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I got a Nex C3. It’s small enough to carry around daily as long as you have some king of bag or pouch; which I assume most people who go out will have anyway.
I was using a G11 previously and that was just so chunky. The size difference between the Nex and the G11 was great enough that I could bring it around very easily.
Posted on Jan 05, 2012 | 10:43 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Unfortunately sensor size dictates the size of the lens (especially the front element). Therefore a FF size sensor does need a huge amount of glass in front of it, unless you are willing to go with a small max aperture.
Posted on Jan 06, 2012 | 7:57 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Yes, but this isn’t the first camera you are looking at. The first one is a high end DSLR and then you realise well maybe I should go for something like this, get comparable quality and its cheaper.
Posted on Jan 05, 2012 | 11:25 AM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
Worth remembering its probably no sports camera.
Posted on Jan 05, 2012 | 11:19 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I doubt this will outperform 5D II. Despite everything, the you can’t compete with a full-frame sensor that’s 1.5 times bigger than the APS-C.
Posted on Jan 05, 2012 | 12:02 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I’m no stranger to the merits of full frame, but a lot has happened since 2008. My fingers are still crossed.
Also, unrelated to performance, part of the beauty of full frame shooting is the seemingly enormous viewfinder that makes APS-C feel shrimpy. This rangerfinder-style viewfinder diminishes that benefit by not being TTL.
Posted on Jan 05, 2012 | 12:24 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
actually it’s got both, optical (rangefinder style) and electronic VF (kind of TTL :) )
Posted on Jan 05, 2012 | 1:50 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
5D MK2 couldn’t compete on ISO with nikon D700, X100 is very close to D700 so for low-light fuji will do much better than 5D. Not many ppl who own 5D use it for everything, most of my friends use it mostly for video and landscapes, for sports it’s too slow, for low-light too noisy and AF sucks – canon/nikon/fuji user
Posted on Jan 05, 2012 | 1:45 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
Don’t forget that because of the crop factor the 35mm will be equivalent to 53mm on a full frame camera. If you are looking for shallow DoF it won’t be ideal for it. You would need a 50mm (67mm equiv) for that.
Posted on Jan 05, 2012 | 10:58 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
depends how far your subject is, doesn’t it?
Posted on Jan 05, 2012 | 1:41 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Nope. His statement was that the combo would lend to incredibly shallow DoF. Assuming he means relative to other cameras on the market under normal usage, then no, it wouldn’t.
You can put your finger 2 inches away from an iPhone 4s and get really shallow DoF and blurred background, but that isn’t the point. It is getting it under normal conditions, i.e., portraits etc.
Therefore, his statement that this combo would be capable of really shallow DoF, is incorrect.
Because of the crop factor, one would have to step back to get the same amount of coverage as a full frame camera. Thus, it is limited in this regard.
My D7000 is limited in the same way. It is fine, but I am aware of it. I don’t expect to put a 35mm on and be able to get shallow DoF unless I am shooting objects up close. Full faces or portraits, not so much.
Posted on Jan 05, 2012 | 1:55 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
yep, that’s what i meant, depends how for your subject is. of course comparing cropped and full frame and trying to achieve the same DoF and the same angle of view is impossible and I guess that’s what he meant by saying that this combo would give you shallow DoF because of larger aperture than we usually see on similar systems from sony/panasonic/olympus at least I’m not aware of any lens for this systems with such large aperture. I like D7000 + either 35 or 50mm f/1.8 combo. I’ve had mine 35 f/1.8 literally welded to my old dSLR for over a year.
Posted on Jan 05, 2012 | 2:14 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
But a 1.4 aperture can give you some spectacular subject isolation, even with a 30-35mm focal length on a crop body.
A portrait, taken with a distance of 1.5 meters will have focus area of approximately 15cm. That is some very serious background blurring.
Posted on Jan 06, 2012 | 4:19 AM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
the 5dii already has pretty sad performance with high ISO/low light. with the replacement likely to be crammed with even more pixels, i doubt it will be significantly better, if at all. the sample pictures from the x-pro1 at ISO 1600 looks fairly clean.
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 6:18 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
i personally think that x100 is sexier… i hope fuji will push its price down…
Posted on Jan 05, 2012 | 9:43 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Initial impressions – looks ugly, but I’m sure it’s good.
Posted on Jan 05, 2012 | 8:02 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I agree. I don’t like the all-black body. I would prefer the two-tone design of the Fuji X100 and the Leica bodies.
Posted on Jan 05, 2012 | 1:56 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I’m a Leica owner. This camera looks like sex to me.
Posted on Jan 06, 2012 | 3:20 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Very tasty. Relatively low pixel count on an APS-C sensor means it’ll do well in low light situations and offer good dynamic range. This might just be “it”.
Posted on Jan 05, 2012 | 8:12 AM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
The rumors says : 1300 eur for the body and the 53mm lens + 600 eur for each other lenses …
Posted on Jan 05, 2012 | 8:20 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Really? I thought 1300 was body only?
But if you right, which I hope, then this might be even a better deal then the NEX-7 plus say a CV 35/1.4.
I hope the sensor is as good as the x100’s
Posted on Jan 05, 2012 | 8:58 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I think its unrealistic to hope for a kit priced at 1300€. It’s most likely just the body for that much…
Posted on Jan 05, 2012 | 5:03 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Actually, the original leak article from the French magazine states explicitly that 1300 Eur was for the kit (i.e., body plus 35mm f/1.4 lens). Now, whether Fuji will hold to that is a different matter.
Posted on Jan 06, 2012 | 3:34 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Fuji is on a roll of late..
Posted on Jan 05, 2012 | 8:46 AM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
Not a roll of film though.
Posted on Jan 05, 2012 | 6:01 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
This is flippin’ fantastic, finally something to accompany my Leica M6.; love the hybrid viewfinder.
Posted on Jan 05, 2012 | 9:01 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Now if you could only mount your lenses…
Posted on Jan 05, 2012 | 9:03 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Im sure it wont take too long for an adaptor
Posted on Jan 05, 2012 | 9:40 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
But you would still need some kind of focus aid. That’s why I still tend towards the NEX 7 where you have the focus peaking.
Can’t wait for CES to see this thing.
Posted on Jan 05, 2012 | 11:30 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
True, I wonder if this will have a focusing aid, or if they plan to add one in firmware
Posted on Jan 05, 2012 | 11:58 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
What’s to stop you from using the TTL live view as a focus aid? Surely it would be trivial for the software UI to to give you peeping mode for MF lenses.
Posted on Jan 06, 2012 | 3:35 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Looks interesting, want one to go with my X100 (yeah not really, but I do like it)
Posted on Jan 05, 2012 | 9:39 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I was actually thinking about keeping my X100 if I get this new X Pro 1, because currently there is no info regarding 23mm (35mm eq) lens. I like 35mm eq angle of view.
Posted on Jan 05, 2012 | 2:26 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
crosses fingers M-mount mm-mount !! Come on fuji!!
Posted on Jan 05, 2012 | 10:16 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
It’s not an M mount. It’s an X-mount. Stats are different, 17.7mm focal flange distance, etc. Good news is it looks wholly compatible with future adapter from X to M mount, at least as far as dimensions go.
Posted on Jan 06, 2012 | 3:36 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Cannon……you awake? Only gonna wait so long :-/
Posted on Jan 05, 2012 | 10:44 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I think it’s a shame they decided to make it out of liquorice – seems to be melting in the pictures already
Would probably stick to insides of camera bag – I’ll pass.
Posted on Jan 05, 2012 | 11:16 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Meh, too little too late, NEX 7 >>> This.
Posted on Jan 05, 2012 | 11:27 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
NEX lacks the soul
Posted on Jan 05, 2012 | 11:54 AM EST reply Recommend (3) Flag actions
What do you mean? Crappy looks doesnt add soul. Its all in the inside, the lense and the person holding it.
Posted on Jan 05, 2012 | 5:05 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
you suggesting the x pro1 looks crappy? Id say the NEXs lack passion.
Posted on Jan 05, 2012 | 5:38 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
I’m not sure what you mean — are you just referring to the design? One of my favourite cameras in my collection is the wonderful Fuji Natura Classica film compact, which you might say has way more “passion” than this or the X100 on those grounds. I also like my NEX a lot, though! I feel like the passion that matters is inside the photographer.
Posted on Jan 05, 2012 | 9:57 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Yes, Im saying the NEX look uninspired.
I won’t disagree that the photographer is important, but I also like to have nice things that feel like they were designed with a passion.
The NEX does not – IMHO.
The Natura looks very nice at first glance yes.
Posted on Jan 06, 2012 | 5:15 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Of course maybe somewhat ironically or contradicting myself, I really like the designs of the new Nikon V1 and J1s. They’re almost anti designed. The complete antithesis of the Fuji X10/X100 etc and not the design-by-robot look of the NEX and many of those compact cameras – I really like their utilitarian starkness.
Posted on Jan 06, 2012 | 5:17 AM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
Each to their own, I guess. I like the NEX-3 and NEX-7 designs a lot, but I’m not crazy about the 5/5n or C3.
Posted on Jan 06, 2012 | 8:26 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
How so? The NEX 7 looks good, but this looks better in many ways. Sensor looks better (randomized six-color photosites and no anti-moiré filter as a result? Score!), lenses look better (both in size, aperture, diaphragm shape, etc.), hybrid viewfinder looks better (it has optical zoom to match lenses in addition to the seamless switch to digital). Really this is a super strong competitor to NEX 7, and I say that as a staunch fan of the NEX 7.
Posted on Jan 06, 2012 | 3:39 AM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
From a purely technical standpoint you might even be right (time will tell) and the NEX-7 is definitely the benchmark camera for APS-C EVILs. But depending on the Viewfinder implementation and the operational layout this one looks much more attractive to me personally.
Posted on Jan 06, 2012 | 4:28 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
ABSOLUTELY WANT!!!!
Posted on Jan 05, 2012 | 12:01 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
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Pretty please?
Posted on Jan 05, 2012 | 12:35 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
The lens line up is what I like, nice to see some fast glass at the launch of a new mirrorless system
Posted on Jan 05, 2012 | 12:37 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
If the lenses are specifically designed for the sensor, there is no crop factor but a multiplication factor to reach an equivalent 135 format focal length.
Posted on Jan 05, 2012 | 1:11 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Not necessarily.. It depends on how the manufacturer publishes the specs. EF-S lenses still have a crop factor, even though they only work on APS-C.
Posted on Jan 05, 2012 | 3:11 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Careful. There is a lot of loose language being thrown around here. EF-S lenses throw a smaller image circle for a given focal length (one reason they can be made smaller; the shorter back-focus distance is key too). So really, it’s not that you’re "cropping out" a lot of the physical image circle (which is what happens with full EF lenses, which throw an image large enough to cover a full frame sensor). You do, however, have to apply a multiplication factor to compare the angle of view between EF-S and EF lenses. So really, Bousozoku’s comment is strictly accurate.
Posted on Jan 06, 2012 | 3:55 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Almost all manufacturers publish their specs this way, even if the lenses only work on APS-C or smaller (DX, NEX, Micro Four Thirds etc). The source listed the focal lengths and 35mm equivalent, for what it’s worth:
18mm (27mm equivalent) f/2.0
35mm (53mm equivalent) f/1.4
60mm (90mm equivalent) f/2.4
Posted on Jan 05, 2012 | 10:00 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
All details can be found here (sorry but the snaps are in French)
http://photo-cult.com/forum.php?c=8&t=142706&pg=1
Posted on Jan 05, 2012 | 3:10 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
Yumm: My S95 looks at this and says “wow camera brother, you look extra special but too bad you are not pocket friendly and your lenses are proprietary.” “A lens for you costs more than I did, even the S100 thinks the same.” “Challenge me to a shootout and lets see who gives a better bang for the buck”
Posted on Jan 05, 2012 | 8:59 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
How will this stack up against the NEX-5N?
Posted on Jan 05, 2012 | 9:00 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
And this camera looks at your S95 and says "hm, let’s see you even begin to approach my narrow depth of field / fast shutter capability, or low-light/high-ISO/low-noise quality. On top of which, have fun with your button-holding and menu-switching just to adjust the exposure triangle, while my constant-access physical dials allow instantaneous and intuitive operation. Oh, and what about my probably leaf shutter, allowing ultra-high flash sync speed, or my hybrid viewfinder, allowing best-of-both-worlds composition?
Methinks you don’t get the idea behind this camera. It’s not a pocket camera; it’s not even a supplement to a DSLR (although it can be); it’s a potential DSLR replacement for people who want to do street/travel/fun photography and not be shackled with a huge camera backpack and a very non-discreet giant machine pointing at strangers.
Posted on Jan 06, 2012 | 3:49 AM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
That old school styling is really attractive. And the APS-C sensor is delicious, but it looks about as thick as my Canon G11, which is rather hefty.
I got my wife to buy me a Sony Nex C3 for xmas and it’s a lot thinner than that; so i’ve been able to easily carry it around with me everywhere I go. However, this Fuji has physical knobs! Damn! I want those knobs. I can’t stand the software selection for settings.
Posted on Jan 05, 2012 | 10:38 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
This appears to be the camera I’ve been holding out for for five years – a digital equivalent Contax G! (Let’s just hope the metal Fuji lenses are as good as the Carl Zeiss G lenses) It’s just a shame the manufacturers have been holding back on the technology. This is revolutionary, but overdue ‘camera-nut cult camera’ for the street-savvy photographer who rejects the bulk of DSLRs and revels in high quality minimalism. (who maybe can’t remortgage the house for a Leica M9 + lenses)
Posted on Jan 06, 2012 | 12:08 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
If it can take my 1950s 135mm M-mount Leica Hektor, I am in heaven.
Posted on Jan 06, 2012 | 3:23 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
optical image stabilization?
Posted on Jan 06, 2012 | 5:03 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
in their yet to be released zoom lenses.
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 6:29 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I still think the Panasonic GX1 with Powered 14-42 lens is the mirrorless to beat for under $1000. The Sony is nice but the lenses are simply too big and body too small to make the camera a true D-SLR replacement. I actually prefer a full size body to the NEX-7 but the Panasonic is just sized right.
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 2:50 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
USD lens prices?:
http://www.amazon.com/Fujifilm-Lens-X-Pro1-35mm-F1-4/dp/tech-data/B006UL00R6/ref=de_a_smtd
http://www.amazon.com/Lens-X-Pro1-60mm-F2-4-Macro/dp/tech-data/B006UL010W/ref=de_a_smtd
Posted on Jan 08, 2012 | 6:14 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Yep – this is the Leica M9 for the rest of us. Admittedly APS-C sensor size but without AA filter could match or surpass DSLR FF as they said in the French article, but the Leica also has no AA filter and is FF, so this might be a tad below in Image Quality.
But there won’t be any lack of test comparisons once the X Pro becomes available. Some rumors also say Fuji will produce a Leica M-mount for the X Pro.
So far so good, considering the success of the X100 all points to it being the best of its class, especially with the NEX7 still lacking decent glass. (besides the only one overpriced Zeiss)
For those interested in the actual French magazine, I’ve provided a digest in english.
From Reponses Photo issue 239 page 8 Fuji unveils its new X100 digital viewfinder interchangeable lens successor camera. Now with an APS-C size CMOS sensor said to rival the best, mostly because of its special ‘random’ photosite arangement, no Bayer filter variant, similar but different to Leica’s approach.
(more at http://www.flickr.com/photos/nycandre/6646399615/in/set-72157605888833527/
Posted on Jan 08, 2012 | 7:47 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
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