It was over four years ago that OLPC founder Nicholas Negroponte showed off images of an XO tablet, and promised it would ship to kids of the developing world in 2010 for $100 each. Obviously that didn't quite happen, but it turns out both the company and the tablet are finally ready. Not only is OLPC is bringing the XO 3.0 to CES this week, it's also getting ready to put the slate into production.
The XO 3.0 tablet doesn't have two screens like the prototype Negroponte described a few years back, but it is built in very much the same way as the XO laptop. It's been designed by Yves Behar, has a rugged case, and can be charged via a hand crank or solar panel. In fact, OLPC's CTO Ed McNierney told us that the two-watt tablet can get 10 minutes of runtime from one minute of cranking. (The cranks will be third-party accessories and won't automatically come with the tablet.)
In terms of raw specs, the XO 3.0 has an 8-inch, 1024 x 768-resolution PixelQi display, which can be read indoors and out, a Marvell Armada PXA618 processor, 512MB of RAM, and will be configurable with either Android or Sugar operating systems. Sugar is OLPC's own Linux operating system, which was designed specifically for kids. "We designed the XO-3 with an open fireware and with open BIOs so it is easy to support multiple operating systems. Countries can choose between Android and Sugar," McNierney said.
And that bit about countries is very important. The XO 3.0, like the XO laptops, won't be sold directly to consumers or parents. OLPC will sell the tablets in bulk to countries who want to ensure their children have computers, and won't produce units until orders come in. So how much will countries like Uruguay and Peru (both of which have deployed thousands of OLPC laptops) have to pay? McNierney and Negoroponte say that $100 promise will actually be fulfilled, depending on a little flexibility. Both told us that the tablet can be configured for as low as $100, but that it wouldn't necessarily have the PIxelQi display (a $100 variant would have a regular LCD) and other more premium components might be sacrificed, additionally. We're currently trying to get our hands on images of the tablet, and you can be sure we will be tracking down the actual machine as soon as we get to Vegas.



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Posted on Jan 06, 2012 | 9:56 PM EST reply Recommend (20) Flag actions
Android would be a fine choice to load onto those tablets. Then kids in third world countries can learn about technology that lags and doesn’t like to respond.
Okay, trollbait comment aside, I don’t think loading on Android would be a good idea. I don’t see ICS (or Honeycomb) scaling down well, and Gingerbread and earlier aren’t exactly tablet-optimised, let alone designed with simplicity and learning environments in mind, unlike Sugar.
Posted on Jan 06, 2012 | 10:03 PM EST reply Recommend (19) Flag actions
You’re right, they would have been better off going with Windows XP.
/sarcasm
These tablets are being bought for $100 for educational purposes in third world countries, who gives a **** if the fully functional, modern and FREE OS isn’t “tablet optimized” .
Posted on Jan 06, 2012 | 10:23 PM EST reply Recommend (13) Flag actions
That’s a poor attitude. If you are going to do something at all then you should do it right. The interaction design is the most important part of any device. If you aren’t going to bother ensuring that the software and hardware work great together you shouldn’t bother making the product in the first place.
The price is irrelevant, if it’s a shit product then it’s not a good deal at any price.
Posted on Jan 06, 2012 | 11:09 PM EST reply Recommend (30) Flag actions
It’s not a product. They’re not in it for profit. It’s a tool for underprivileged children.
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 12:23 AM EST reply Recommend (13) Flag actions
Like the one sold in India, the new model coming out there is twice the price of the first one. I guess they can’t sustain the super low pricing they had, $33 for the first one that came out I believe.
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 4:05 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
The newer model is higher spec’d than the first one.. And it isn’t double the cost. Although higher spec’d doesn’t mean that much, coz the first one had a 330 mhz processor or so..
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 9:53 AM EST via mobile reply Recommend Flag actions
Regardless of profit it is still a branded product. Mikey is right still. Build it right or don’t bother.
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 9:50 AM EST reply Recommend (3) Flag actions
I’m almost 100% positive that a child in an unfortunate circumstance would not get this tablet and be like…. "no ics, or possibility of upgrade? Get this out of here! "
Chances are they would be grateful for the device, and probably do not care which version of android it is running. I for one will not buy this for myself, but for my 9 month old I probably would buy it for her to tap animals on screens and chew on it.
Remember people this is an extremely budget device, you cannot expect to have it running latest android versions on limited hardware.
Let’s not forget why this tablet was made.
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 10:06 AM EST reply Recommend (4) Flag actions
“no ics, or possibility of upgrade? Get this out of here! "
First world problems, for sure.
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 10:29 AM EST reply Recommend (6) Flag actions
No one said anything about the latest version of Android, merely that whatever OS it runs should be optimised for the form factor.
This project is committed to providing computing solutions to the poor, as such they should provide the best product available that matches their specifications. Failing to make software that works well in concert with hardware is failing to meet the aims of the project.
Regardless of the fact that it’s selling for a low price, everything it does it should do well. It doesn’t need to be able to play movies or Angry Birds, but the things it does need to do, ebooks and web browsing, are dependent on touch interaction, so if the OS isn’t designed to work well with the hardware the whole product is crippled and, thus, a failure.
This attitude of ‘hey, they’re poor people, just give them any old shit’ is really concerning.
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 1:46 PM EST reply Recommend (4) Flag actions
Out of curiosity: have you used Sugar or the XO laptop? I’m trying to figure out where you’re concerns are coming from.
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 2:27 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I’m not implying that the product itself has an unsuitable OS, I was addressing the attitude of the commenter above who suggested that if the product did have an unsuitable OS it wouldn’t matter.
Sorry if that wasn’t clear. As you said, I’ve never used either Sugar Linux or the XO tablet and have no reason to think that it does have such a problem.
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 4:26 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
You just echoed my sentiments exactly.
Posted on Jan 08, 2012 | 11:09 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
It’s not meant to be a general computing solution, it’s meant to be a learning solution.
Posted on Jan 08, 2012 | 11:17 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Then wont a gadget that produces FOOD + CLEAN WATER, the essential human need in 3rd world countries, be more valuable than offering them a tablet? just sayin…
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 3:26 PM EST via mobile reply Recommend Flag actions
The world has more shades than that. This is for those that have food and water but not enough resources for a good education.
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 6:56 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Come on, have some ambition. It’s almost impossible to have a discussion on technology in Africa, etc. without the “give them three square meals” mantra raising it’s head. We’ve leapfrogged fixed line telephony and are pioneering mobile, haven’t you heard? Just saying…
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 9:03 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
That’s a nice philosophy, but it’s completely irrelevant.
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 12:29 AM EST reply Recommend (3) Flag actions
Sorry it’s not beefy enough for you to watch the latest Transformers craptacular at 4K. That’s not what these are for. They’re for eBooks and simple learning games.
Does it have a touch screen? Decent battery life (and/or easy off-grid charging)? Is it durable? Yes on all counts.
Negroponte isn’t a fool. Dude founded the media lab at MIT. And WIRED magazine. And he’s been refining the OLPC mission for the better part of a decade. I’m going to go ahead and say he knows better than you how to design the product.
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 4:53 AM EST reply Recommend (16) Flag actions
Mikey didn’t say that the hardware should be more powerful or be able to play a Transformers film- he said that the hardware should work well in concert with the software, and that this is something that its makers should care about.
He also didn’t suggest any changes that Negroponte should make to the XO 3.0, so its not relevant whether Negroponte or Mikey is better qualified to design this product.
As for the battery life and durability (and so on), since we don’t even know what the XO 3.0 looks like, it’s probably fair to say that we don’t know if we can answer “Yes” on all of those counts, just yet.
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 8:27 AM EST reply Recommend (3) Flag actions
Obvious edit: now we do have pictures.
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 10:13 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
-I was objecting to the notion that the tablet’s designers weren’t concerned about overall UI. They built a custom OS from the ground up for the device. They also spec’d it to run on Android, because that allows the users to gain access to the same world of apps (productive and otherwise) the rest of us use. This would be the precise opposite of the “good enough for poor people” approach some posters have been suggesting is at play here.
-We knew it had a touchscreen (specifically an über-efficient PixelQi transflective display), and accessories for solar and kinetic charging. We also knew it was designed by two very smart men (Negroponte and Behar) specifically to be used by children in the developing world. One would presume the two of them thought it a good idea to make it at least a little durable.
But ultimately, the thing that really irked me was that the OP was really just a troll on Android wrapped up in false piety and fake concern for poor people. Nobody (nobody!) said it can’t run Honeycomb. Or ICS. It can likely run both…the Armada 618 is clocked at 1Ghz and it’s got 512MB RAM – there are Gingerbread phones (hell, Eclair phones) being upgraded to ICS with lesser specs than that. But you know what? It doesn’t matter. Because it’s not about what you want in a device. It’s about what is functional, reliable, and sustainable. This device is all of those things. And it’s cheeeeep. Cheap enough that it doesn’t really raise questions about the money being better spent on things like food (like an iPad would at 5x the price). People like to talk about the iPad as a revolutionary, gamechanger of a device. Well yeah, sure – in certain parts of the world. But do you think the iPad has revolutionized West Africa? (hint: it hasn’t). This device is meant to lower the bar for entry for education and Internet access in developing countries. It’s fundamentally different from the luxury devices we play with every day.
I get it, this is a gadget blog. We’re all used to reacting to gadgets based on levels of WANT. But this isn’t for you. It’s for someone else.
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 6:58 PM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
There isn’t any suggestion that the designers of the XO 3.0 don’t care about the UI. The original comment said that Android was a bad choice, and some people replied to say, “Who cares? It’s a tool for the poor.” (most notably Spaces and Satan). Mikey_clarke said that this was “a poor attitude”, and it sounds like you agree.
I agree that the OP is wrong about whether or not the XO 3.0 can run the latest Android; it’s got more than enough power. I think the important point to take away from the OP’s post is that Android is not “designed with […] learning environments in mind”. It might not be suitable for achieving the goals that the OLPC project set out with (to create an education device for young children).
You make a good argument about Android opening up the same world of apps that the rest of the world uses, but here again is the concern that this world of of apps might not be of any value in the classroom for educating young children. It might be better to stick with Sugar, which, as you note, was built from the ground up for that purpose.
You have a lot of faith in Negroponte to produce a good device, and that’s nice. I share that optimism about OLPC in general, but I think this might be a good video to watch:
http://www.itbusiness.ca/it/client/en/home/News.asp?id=65525
In it, Negroponte talks about the difficulty they have had finding durable enough materials, and states that “it is unclear [that the] tablet keyboard is going to be sufficient”.
It’s very hard to cheaply make a device that lives up the vision that the OLPC project has- certainly harder than just being a clever man. Let’s wait for the device to come out before we sound so sure that the XO 3.0 has fulfilled those promises.
Posted on Jan 08, 2012 | 9:47 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I agree with much of the “not for the rest of us”, but for one thing.. A lot of android developers are parents who write little educational apps for their kids.. Some “real” companies write apps for iphone and android specifically for educational purposes.. The “rest of us” could include programmers who don’t want to target Sugar..
PS. I’m not one of the first, but I was coding for Sugar years ago, and back then it was frustrating to target an OS that kept moving. It soured me.. I always hoped the OLPC would gravitate toward handheld OS’s.. PocketPC and Android have hundreds of thousands of coders out there.. Why not take advantage of their generosity..
Posted on Feb 12, 2012 | 6:25 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Yes, children in 3rd (even 2nd) world countries for sure care. Probably if the tablet is not as smooth as iPhone 4S, they would throw it away.
Really, there is very simple dependence – the cheaper, the worse. Of course the best choice would be Transformer Prime or iPad, but I’m not sure if governments want to spend such amount of money. So it is better to have ANY tablet (even poor one) or NO tablet?
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 6:31 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
you’d give your ipad to a second grader.. For the day? Good luck with that.. :)
Posted on Feb 12, 2012 | 6:27 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Spoken like a true first-world citizen. Has it ever occurred to you that somewhere out there in a world of ours there are children who’d never even seen a computer, much less dream of owning one. It’ll be thing from another world for them.
Not that we should care, or try to understand that. /s
No. What we see is that it doesn’t have 4g, or bluetooth, or a quad core processor, or a retina display.
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 11:45 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
This is similar specs to Android devices when Android first came around. Android scales perfectly well to these specs regardless of the version they decide to use. All that matters are the applications that are available, which is why I feel it does not make a difference between Android and Sugar. Just like Sugar, this will be optimized to the learning enviorment it is meant to. And Android does not require much tweaking at all to make it simplistic.
You are judging Android at face value while ignoring the fact that because it is open source, they can do anything they want with it to make it perform to accomplish the same tasks as Sugar does. Do you think Sugar is more tablet optimized then Android? Does it matter in this application?
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 12:58 AM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
the only difference is between android and sugar is 10,000 programmers vs 10 million. Some of those programmers are parents, and I (being an android developer and parent) would love for the G1G1 .. I’d write apps for my kids all day if I could. And that means I’d be writing em for “these” kids.
Posted on Feb 12, 2012 | 6:30 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
How can you people praise and thank Steve Jobs for the iPhone and the iPad which are the smartphone and tablet equivalent of tricycles? The OS is so dumbed down with the intent to make it easy enough for the average consumer. I don’t understand how you can be thankful of that, it’s almost like Jobs is selling you a product while calling you a retard at the same time. The fact that this is what Jobs thought the average person needed is a slap in the average consumers face. Android is designed by a company of engineers for smart people to use. How do you expect to exercise your brain muscle when you’re giving it the simplest UI to grasp? Thank you Steve Jobs, you’re the reason that movie Idiocracy comes to fruition…
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 2:33 AM EST via mobile reply Recommend (4) Flag actions
how u managed to think an apple-bashing comment would be apropriate in this context is beyond my understanding … u’re a troll alright, but u’re a seriously shameless one (which makes it a bad thing … otherwise, trolls usually can be fun).
u should’ve kept ur thoughts to urself, rly.
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 11:15 AM EST via mobile reply Recommend (3) Flag actions
Doakie’s reply: Android is designed by a company of engineers for smart people to use.
Then I guess, based on your comment, you are not and Android user?
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 7:01 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I’m not familiar with Sugar, is it in other products on the market already? Thanks
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 4:06 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Read: http://www.sugarlabs.org/
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 11:26 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
And if you happen to have any popular Linux distros (like Ubuntu) handy, it’s packaged for most of the big ones. Ubuntu and Fedora both have it in their repositories, and you can install it and play with it in a window or as an actual login session.
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 12:01 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
So you’re saying Android isn’t even good enough for underprivileged children from Somalia?
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 7:50 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Android is a resource hog and drains the battery. Loading Android onto a Touchpad reduces battery life by 30-40%. It’s also slow and laggy, with tons of micro stutters and always lagging behind a user’s touch input.
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 1:49 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
…that’s also an unofficial port being optimized by folks in their spare time. Considering the vast resources of HP, if a bunch of random folks (talented as they are) could take their product and port over an entirely different instance of Linux that is from the start completely as optimized as the one the tablet was developed for in the first place, well then, HP should just . . . uhh . . . hmm. You get my point, but I’m having a hard time landing it, since HP has already given up on WebOS (and the Touchpad in particular) pretty completely.
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 5:59 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
So a custom alpha ROM for a tablet that runs WebOS is laggy and drains the battery, WHAT A SURPRISE ! Sounds like somebody needs their nappy changed !
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 8:07 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
It takes a troll to bate a troll.
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 8:02 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
the main idea isn’t really about learning technology, but rather using technology to learn. They’ll be grateful for any device, i’m sure you will be if you’re in a third world country.
We have all lived through slow interfaces, i don’t see why a little lag will have a huge impact.
It is either some form of Linux or Android.
(Gates is gone, no more free windows for XO?)
I do agree there are better education OS out there, but it probably won’t be as fun to use since they are not customised for touch and i think most don’t have ARM support.
Posted on Jan 08, 2012 | 12:14 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Excellent! This brilliant charity is moving forward, tablets are the new form factor and they are now delivering the latest method of electronic communication to the third world! Well done XO, truly well done.
Posted on Jan 06, 2012 | 10:04 PM EST reply Recommend (4) Flag actions
If they could put ICS on this it would be amazing i mean ICS is free for them to use
Posted on Jan 06, 2012 | 10:16 PM EST reply Recommend (3) Flag actions
I’m completely disillusioned by OLPC project – just let me know the real RESULTS from their past attempts to change the world for the poor. I don’t give a damn about the fancy hardware if it can’t do what it was designed to do. Has it really changed the policies of the target countries to benefit the education? Were they able to successfully deliver the internet communication (which is probably the most important part)? I haven’t heard anything from these programs about how effective they are – nothing substantial comes out of it. This is just a “$100” laptop all over again, just in a tablet form.
Show me something that would work.
Posted on Jan 06, 2012 | 10:24 PM EST reply Recommend (7) Flag actions
You know why no tech blog ever talks about them? Because the OLPC project isn’t Apple. They aren’t producing slick ads and making “magic, revolutionary, post-pc computing products that just work”. They don’t have a huge marketing machine. Because they don’t need one. That’s not their goal. Their goal is to get some of the poorest children on earth access to a computing device. That’s it. Not for money.
You’re attitude is just, wrong. The project has benefited children. But it somehow doesn’t fit into your unrealistic expectations.
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 12:29 AM EST reply Recommend (8) Flag actions
“Nothing substantial comes out of it.”
What gives you right to criticize their work? What exactly have you done? How many laptops have you given to underprivileged children?
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 12:31 AM EST reply Recommend (3) Flag actions
First, does one need to give laptop to underprivileged children to deserve a “right” point out some problems about OLPC project? No. Do you hand out these rights? No.
Second, this goes to satan as well, exactly what have you heard about OLPC’s progress in distributing laptops to poor children and its effects? Have you heard? OLPC laptop project is largely regarded as a failure – yes, you need hardware to take advantage of modern technology, but you know what you need as well? Good technical support as well as the infrastructure for these children to gain access to the fruits of modern technology – mainly power and the internet (have you really thought through about what OLPC was supposed to do?). Without these, children will not gain access to information, which is supposed to aid in education.
Good intention is often not enough – anyone can have one, but that doesn’t mean good things can come out of it. I was impressed by the concept of OLPC project when it came out, but it turned out to have serious flaws, including ones I’ve mentioned above. Thinking that giving out (not really giving out, they are selling these to the government and the manufacturers are making profit, by the way – I hope you understand this) laptops alone will solve the problem of education for the poor have not helped much as far as I can tell. I’m sure OLPC founders also recognize these problems. I am very disappointed by the huge gap in what they have promised and what they have accomplished in all these years. This may be a pretty good indication that they just may be looking at the wrong solution to the problem. I am absolutely fine in them failing the first attempt – but I don’t see too much difference in their approach here.
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 1:47 AM EST reply Recommend (4) Flag actions
I asked you: What exactly have you done?
You repeated your points.
You’re disappointed. You claim they failed. You criticize what they’ve done.
They’re making a difference. You haven’t. Yet you think you know what’s best.
Guess what? You’re not a part of this. No matter how important you think your opinion is, you don’t have a single thing to do with OLPC or their goals.
I wish theverge had an option to ignore users. You’re comments are a waste of space.
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 2:06 AM EST reply Recommend (6) Flag actions
Doing something does not give you magic invulnerability to critisim, asshole.
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 5:57 AM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
Sorry if I came across as an asshole but read his original post.
’Nuff said.
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 10:20 AM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
“Show me something that would work.”
I’d hate to be this guys kid.
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 10:20 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Have you had enough of personal insults? I’m going to bed.
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 11:48 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I completely disagree with you…
On amazon people could buy an OLPC for their kid while donating one to the poor…
If this project is helped by the public then they bloody well share the results of what they are doing….
I am an Indian and I see poverty from a much closer perspective in my day to day life than you do I suppose….
What he said was right…the aim is not to give the kids computers and be happy thinking it as a fact that they provided the kids education….just because it does NOT work that way…
You need to provide education as a complete package with that OLPC tablet(meaning you provide internet access + free books + free misc. software just so that the existence of a tablet makes sense)….
Finally I would like to say that questioning someone’s approach is not necessarily criticizing it….they giving us results will only boost their project…
Posted on Jan 08, 2012 | 3:19 AM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
My understanding was that the component manufacturers were selling to OLPC at manufacturing cost for the chips. But I can’t find anything to back that up, so maybe I’m mistaken.
Speaking of backing things up, care to share some sources about OLPC being regarded as a failure etc?
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 2:10 AM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
As far as I remember, the companies involved in the manufacture of this did not regard the OLPC as a charity project. The manufacturing costs includes the profit made by the manufacturer. This is is very much justified, as these companies did not volunteer to do this for free – especially considering an extremely slim margin of pretty much any computer assembly and components. This was one of the biggest problem of OLPC project – the volume of order was expected to be in the hundreds of millions, yet the actual number turned out to be a few million. Companies doubled the price of the hardware because the volume was so low. It was a PR debacle for OLPC, but especially for Quanta – who got burned when the price hike got media attention (hence good intention going bad). This is part of the reason I am very much skeptical of anything that comes out of OLPC program, because it has no credibility from the past relations with their partners.
Don’t get me wrong, I really respect OLPC’s intention. And I’m reading in the comments that in some part of the countries they were indeed successful. As I’ve said to satan, people are entitled to their own opinions – and as for me, I take OLPC related topic with a pile of salt. But that’s just me – given my opinions about the topic, I prefer others look things up themselves :)
Posted on Jan 08, 2012 | 12:18 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
However, in this regard doing something like this is better than not doing it at all – and whilst it might not have revolutionised the third world in the course of less than a decade, it has distributed laptops to kids who are using them, and even if you discard that, it’s raised a lot of press on the importance of technology for developing nations.
It’s mentioned above that “good intention is often not enough – anyone can have one, but that doesn’t mean good things can come out of it”, which implies either what they’re doing is bad, or that it’s a worthless endeavour. Even if there are flaws with the programme, surely somebody actually going out there and doing something is better than them sitting in their offices doing naff all?
You’re entitled to criticise, but they’ve achieved a reasonable amount in a comparatively short time-frame.
“I am very disappointed by the huge gap in what they have promised and what they have accomplished in all these years” – they’ve only been going since 2005, that’s a blink of an eye in educational system reform/creation terms, couple with the fact it’s also a short time in infrastructure build-out terms (when you move house in the UK you can be left without internet for 30 days even when the person living there before you had it all set up, let alone building it out completely at a national level) and governmental budget terms. Oh, and if they haven’t achieved a lot, what is it Michelangelo said? “The greater danger for most of us lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low, and achieving our mark.”
I agree that “net-good” companies/orgs shouldn’t be excluded from criticism, but your comments came across as quite harsh on OLPC because they’ve not managed to change the world yet, and are trying iterative product developments in line with the initial mission.
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 7:26 AM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
I totally understand your point. And I’m glad the concept of OLPC has been tried out, since the core concept was brilliant. I remember arguing for OLPC with my colleagues when the project was announced – and tried to convince others that access to information is the most crucial key to improving the lives of the poor. What I have not thought through at the time and am completely embarrassed now is how the government and financial reality is still at the heart of the problems of the poor – and did not realize that until the news of OLPC’s failure came pouring in a few years after it had started.
As far as me being harsh on OLPC – this is simply my opinion about the OLPC as a specific organization and its history. I just don’t turn blind eyes to their failings and am very skeptical about them anymore. I kind of understand Satan’s irate response – he says that I’m not part of it, and he’s right – I no longer support nor encourage OLPC program because of their reputation.
You could very well be right that the program just hasn’t been given enough time to work out the kinks. Who knows?
Posted on Jan 08, 2012 | 12:33 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
A fair explanation, and I think it is right to analyse these sort of orgs in a similar way to for-profits (like (Red), which I don’t think is a charity either, but is “non-profit”), but with the understanding that they aren’t operating in free markets all of the time. Either they’re working with governments still finding their feet with other major issues, or they have to “invent” the market for the product, and that takes a lot of time – oftentimes much slower than the pace of the technology they’re trying to sell.
They could sell hundreds of millions of them, but most of the governments they’re selling them to have to deal with other, potentially more pressing, pulls on their finances.
I don’t think (in my opinion, obviously) OLPC as an organisation is at fault for not being able to shift units to all of the developing world, and ultimately, it’s that critical mass of a “want-to-be-connected” population which will bring with it general internet infrastructure build-out.
I believe for an organisation doing what they’re doing, and working at an intergovernmental level, 7 years isn’t enough time to really judge their impact.
Posted on Jan 08, 2012 | 6:10 AM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
I think you are right about giving it more time. We’ll see.
Posted on Jan 08, 2012 | 11:49 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Umm…how many laptops can give the underprivileged children education….?
Positive intentions don’t always make a positively good world….
Posted on Jan 08, 2012 | 3:22 AM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
Looking critically at something that is not working is not a wrong attitude.
About ads? OLPC got a lot of attention AND funding because of it’s slick promotion. Look at some of the posts here – do you think they’ll be praising it if it didn’t have sexy hardware? I’m not saying it’s wrong to do so – I think it’s very clever. But am I wrong about what I am pointing out? No.
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 1:58 AM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
You could just go to their site and read about it for yourself.
http://one.laptop.org/
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 9:58 AM EST reply Recommend (4) Flag actions
Best reply in this thread today Tesio. Thank you. :)
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 10:00 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I spent two years in Uruguay starting in 2009 and am currently vacationing there. I can emphatically tell you that yes, the OLPC has dramatically changed the face of Uruguayan education and Internet awareness. Every family with an elementary school aged children has a laptop, and i assure you that the child is not the only person who benefits from the laptop. Parents can find jobs, stay in contact with family, and improve their job skills with a Linux PC with a cruddy screen.
Has Internet accessibility improved? Absolutely! EVERY SINGLE elementary school, no matter how far they are from civilization, has free wifi. This is also getting rolled out to high schools where the government plans to give cheap laptops to high school aged kids. I’ll reply with the model later, I know it is blue and uses a KDE based launcher.
Plan Ceibal, as it is called here in Uruguay, has been one of the most celebrated successes of this leftist government. Nobody I know has ever complained about results of the program, but rather wait anxiously for their child to reach second grade and get his laptop.
If you have any questions regarding the success / acceptance of the OLPC in uruguay, I’d be happy to answer, as I have firsthand experience with the program. Let’s just keep it civil!
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 11:05 AM EST reply Recommend (10) Flag actions
I’d be very interested to see some articles about this.
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 11:35 AM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
This is a very useful and under-reported perspective! Write up an article for The Verge or your own blog, it needs to be shared!
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 12:49 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
Sugar UI is sweet enough, don’t you think Ice Cream Sandwich is too much calories for kids?
Posted on Jan 06, 2012 | 10:30 PM EST via mobile reply Recommend (9) Flag actions
lol
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 6:12 AM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
am not much of a google fan but i would rather have android in schools than apple. my teachers were getting free ipads by apple. which i thought was stupid the teachers hardly even use the computers good.
Posted on Jan 06, 2012 | 10:36 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
Well, they obviously didn’t use the iPads to teach you grammar.
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 12:20 AM EST reply Recommend (9) Flag actions
But he uses the computer good.
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 12:32 AM EST reply Recommend (3) Flag actions
yeah because i get tested on grammer on the internet
_do you give pop quizzes to your friends when they text you spelling to as 2Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 1:52 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
A cross-generational tip: When texting to your friends it may not matter (depending on your friends). But in most other contexts, people judge you by how you speak and act. If you do these things poorly, your opinions may be discounted (yes, even on the Internet).
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 2:23 PM EST reply Recommend (4) Flag actions
yes because i care about what people on the internet think of me. the same people that think they can act racist just because they are anonymous. even on this website people go crazy just because you dont agree with their opininon.
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 2:40 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
If you don’t care what people on the internet think then why are you, yaknow, posting on the internet?
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 6:03 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
read it again i think you forgot to read the beginning.
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 9:24 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Nope. Because my friends can spell correctly. The funny part is, you would think they couldn’t considering our demographic (early 20’s females) but they do.
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 3:37 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
umm congratulations.
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 4:20 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
You shouldn’t care what other people on the internet think about you, but with spelling and grammar skills like yours you should be ashamed of yourself. Your browser has a spell check for goodness sake.
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 8:11 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
i am aware of that sadly its really laggy :( which makes me not want to use it.
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 9:25 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
also idk about you but am just a kid i have an xbox avatar as my profile picture. am just a product of our education system i dont go to a fancy school or anything in fact my school was posted as one of the worst schools of california. am sorry if i dont live up to your expectations.
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 9:32 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I went to a crappy school in Ireland and was perfectly able to learn to use grammar and spell, it really isn’t hard, blaming your school is just a sad reflection of your lack of giving-a-shit.
Posted on Jan 08, 2012 | 3:12 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
we live in completly diffrent countries man. i know am spelling words wrong but like i said this is the internet i dont care if its correct or not if it were a test at school maybe i would give a shit. i get it seeing horrible grammer must be a pet peeve of yours if so i recommend you not go anywhere mainstream on the internet and stop being stuck up. we both have different culture around my neighborhood most of the people wear there jeans sagging and slang all the time am use to it. i guess people on tech websites arent use to it.
Posted on Jan 08, 2012 | 5:08 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
OLPC and PixelQi are a match made in heaven… because neither one of them has EVER lived up to the hype and praise heaped upon them by “tech” sites.
Posted on Jan 06, 2012 | 10:50 PM EST reply Recommend (5) Flag actions
So if someone wants to watch a movie they need to crank this thing for almost 20 minutes. Is it my laziness speaking or does this seem like a really long time?
Posted on Jan 06, 2012 | 11:11 PM EST via mobile reply Recommend Flag actions
As opposed to plugging them in to a non-existent plug?
Methinks you should go backpacking in rural Peru… :P
Posted on Jan 06, 2012 | 11:19 PM EST reply Recommend (3) Flag actions
This tablet will be used by impoverished Peruvian school children. Why would they be watching 200 minute movies?
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 6:15 AM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
made an account just to reply to this.
yes. YOU ARE LAZY! your “first-world-problems” stop you from seeing the fact that some people don’t have a wall socket to plug in to. to some people, being able to crank for 20/40/100 minutes is WAY better than NO entertainment.
to all those that are underwhelmed by the fact that there’s no internet on this device : you can load PDF’s or any other offline content. ideal ? no. still beats the hell out of NOT HAVING ANY BOOKS AT ALL!
get some perspective guys
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 10:13 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 10:14 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Here’s a hint, third world schools don’t buy these for watching movies !
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 8:12 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Hard to accept under 1GB
Posted on Jan 06, 2012 | 11:18 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Don’t worry, it has 512MB more RAM than any computer that most of the kids receiving these things will have ever had.
Posted on Jan 06, 2012 | 11:19 PM EST reply Recommend (14) Flag actions
I’m sure most people in the 3rd world have trouble accepting anything with less than 1GB of RAM you sad little child.
Posted on Jan 08, 2012 | 3:14 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I want one so bad! It would be a perfect “on-the-go” tablet I won’t care about getting beat up. Too bad there won’t be sales to consumers :(
Posted on Jan 06, 2012 | 11:32 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Although they’ve backed away from doing it in recent years, hopefully they’ll offer a “Give 1 Get 1” programme on it.
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 7:30 AM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
Amen… G1G1 was and is an awesome idea.. Having one in hand makes it so much easier for us coders to target it.
Posted on Feb 12, 2012 | 6:44 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I am going to this booth to see this for myself. I always love d this concept and what they are trying to do. Android seems perfect for this type of device. I have been making little Andorid PC’s with old devices and it always a seemless experience. ICS may be sluggish but Gingerbread should work fine on here.
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 12:50 AM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
As far as I remember, the XO-3 OLPC Tablet concept was first announced in December 2009, barely more than 2 years ago, not 4 years ago. And they always said it wouldn’t be ready before 2012 since the beginning. It’s about getting the right affordable and unbreakable technology for tablets to be used in education and productivity.
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 4:44 AM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
Charbax, are you going to CES? I’d love to see you cover it on armdevices. Keep up the work, I love your videos!
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 2:29 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Instead of a quarter a day get needy children this. Is that possible? Other than food and basic necessities I think it’s important to be educated.
Also they get a laptop but how do they get the web?
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 10:47 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I found one of the laptops in my classroom this year and thought this is great and wanted to use it. Brought it home and found it was not intuitive and that I had no use for it. Limited browser and preset software. After 10 minutes I boxed it up and put it back were I found it. This tablet will only be useful if it can access the market and allow it the users to get apps that they can use.
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 10:55 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
They don’t sell it to consumers for a reason. lol
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 11:31 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Very cool. Despite the delays, I think this is an important effort. I’d like to know 1) more about the hardware, particularly if the mesh networking is still there and 2) what has changed in Sugar?
While android is cool, it is far less hackable than Sugar; you can hack directly on the laptop with Sugar, rather than downloading Eclipse and wrestling with plugins in various states of completeness. Sugar is also far simpler and somewhat more consistent than Android.
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 11:31 AM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
I hope there’s a program to do a buy one, donate one like the laptop OLPC. I’d love to get my hands on one and do a little charity work at the same time.
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 2:06 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
Well I was going to list all the moronic posters who have never been to 3rd world countries yet feel qualified to disqualify this charitable endeavor. But the point was made above re Uruguay.
Don’t call a troll a troll. They’re just children and always will be. Happily they will never reproduce, and everyone knows it.
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 2:19 PM EST via mobile reply Recommend Flag actions
Posting a strong opinion is not trolling. How do you know that none the posters against OLPC have never been to 3rd world countries (by the way, it’s not very polite to call it that?)? Your assumption is wrong.
If I get to cherry pick successful cases in my experiments, I am no longer acting as a scientist.
I get plenty of criticisms from people that have absolutely no qualification to do my job, but they are certainly entitled to their opinions.
Posted on Jan 08, 2012 | 1:09 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
The specs don’t mention how much Flash Storage is included.
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 2:44 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Make something similar for developed countries but charge more. Use the profits to distribute free models in developing countries. You’re welcome.
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 4:01 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Bono can now send JPEGs of food to all the starving children!
Posted on Jan 07, 2012 | 5:19 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
I am unsure of what the OS will do for the tablet, but, if it runs as smoothly as the not-optimized for tablets Android OS that runs on the Kindle Fire, the product should be fine for what it is intended to be for children. That said, I think a more user friendly OS like Windows 8’s Metro UI would have been a better solution, but that is just my opinion.
Posted on Jan 08, 2012 | 12:16 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Yeah, third paragraph. Maybe “open fireware” is legit. You know how hard it can be to stay warm in third world countries, since we’re hogging world’s oil and stole everyone else’s trees.
Posted on Jan 08, 2012 | 8:12 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
And apparently I’m too stupid to know how to use this high tech commenting system and so can’t reply to the proper comment.
Oh, and mistakes are forever. Real 21st century commenting technology you got here. Anything more advanced and I’d think it was from the future.
Posted on Jan 08, 2012 | 8:15 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
“open fireware” ?
Posted on Jan 08, 2012 | 2:01 AM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
I was just about to post the same :)
Posted on Jan 08, 2012 | 7:52 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
It seems that it has one great advantage compared to other expensive shi- – the usb port.
Posted on Jan 08, 2012 | 3:43 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Hope to see more shots of these laptops. Kudos to these guys for doing something like this.
Posted on Jan 08, 2012 | 2:32 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I have to say I’m very happy with the idea of Android or some other highly used OS on the device. I being a parent and programmer love the idea of writing software for kids who need it.. I have tinkered at apps for my kids, but their little teeth always make me watch them (like a hawk) with my hardware.
I’ve got an original XO and have always wished I could use my programming skills on it. (I have tried but the OS back then was a moving target and several versions of apps I wrote stopped working).
I hope they do the G1G1, because as any android programmer out there knows, the emulator is rubbish. (slow as paint drying).. Get this hardware in our hands (and make us pay for it), and some truly great things will come out of it.. (more than if it’s not in our hands)
I can already see my 3 year old playing with it. Learning shapes and colors from an app I wrote for her. :)
Posted on Feb 12, 2012 | 6:54 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
an app I gave away free, for other kindy kids.
Posted on Feb 12, 2012 | 6:56 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
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