Where are the 8Xs?

So the Verizon 8X is supposed to be "out" but no where seems to have them. In the last two days, I've checked Best Buy, Verizon and Microsoft stores - and it's all the same story. The phones are "released" and can be ordered (with no promised date, though BestBuy.com says 11/23 if you try to order it with express shipping, Verizon says ships between now and 11/27 depending on model) but no retail store has them and no one has any idea when they will come. Does anyone know when or where the 8X will actually be available to purchase in stores?