Good talk on the "news business" horrors discussed, including aol/gawker

Thought it might be of some general interest so here it is.

A talk between Ryan Holiday and Drew Curtis on all aspects of the news, what drives traffic, and how it might shake out. This is probably only tangentially related to the verge, but it probably has loads of back story relating to the "why" of the massive exodus from AOL owned engadget. A tale we may never know for years, until Josh retires and writes his tech site memoires.