In the latest episode of On The Verge, veteran journalist Mary Jo Foley joined editors Josh Topolsky, Paul Miller, and Nilay Patel for a chat about the state of Microsoft and its upcoming products like Windows 8 and Microsoft Surface. Foley says that "Windows 8 is going to be very interesting," and that "people who install it on existing non-touch laptops are going to be surprised, if they haven't tried it already, about what that experience is like." Find out what operating system Foley is using on her laptop, and more, in this clip — and see the rest of the discussion when the full episode airs on Monday.