Matias Duarte helped design the T-Mobile Sidekick, the Helio Ocean, and Palm's webOS. Now, he directs the look and feel of Google's Android operating system. He's probably not the guy you'd expect to say "mobile is dead." Those were the words that left his mouth, though, at the 2014 Accel Design Conference in San Francisco. There, Verge editor-in-chief Joshua Topolsky interviewed him about his thoughts on design and where Android is headed.

If you watch the full interview below, you can not only find out what Duarte meant, but also watch him torture our fearless leader with the barest glimpse at an unannounced smartwatch running Android Wear. Also, flying castles and ponies may or may not make an appearance.