Microsoft's Windows Phone Skype app appears to be nearing release. Skype's VP of products, Rick Osterloh, revealed that Microsoft's Skype division is "working on a Windows Phone product that will be coming out soon," during an interview at CES 2012. Microsoft has typically refused to comment in detail on its Skype plans, after the company acquired the voice and video calling service in October.
Microsoft's Joe Belfiore, Director of the Windows Phone program, originally promised that Skype would arrive on Windows Phone in late 2011, a date that has passed without comment or clarification from the company. We understand, from our own sources, that the initial release of Skype will not feature deep Windows Phone integration, and that Microsoft is planning this for "Apollo" and beyond. Microsoft's first Windows Phone Skype application will largely be seen as an interim release until Windows Phone "Apollo" is made available, expected later this year. Microsoft demonstrated the Skype application at MIX 2011, and the app is believed to look and feel very similar to what was originally shown.
There's no exact timing from Microsoft, but with Mobile World Congress in February and the promise of "soon", we can't help but feel that Skype for Windows Phone might just launch in Barcelona next month.
Update: In case you're wondering how we managed to get Skype running on our Samsung Focus S, the truth is that we don't have any such thing: the image above is merely a picture of Microsoft's MIX 2011 demonstration of Skype that we displayed on our phone's screen.
Thanks, wootbetogod

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Finally. Thank. God.
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 3:35 PM EST reply Recommend (19) Flag actions
I want to hear a solid date for the release from MS, it has been coming soon for month’s now and still nothing.
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 4:20 PM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
I can wait… that is until I have the Luima 900 in my hands.
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 4:58 PM EST reply Recommend (10) Flag actions
Here’s an idea for you Microsoft+Nokia. Both of them should buy Tmobile US and make VoIP “the” big thing. Start offering unlimited data for 79.99 with option to opt-out of regular cellphone plan. That plan will focus on Skype calling. I know you can get a Skype number and any regular phone can dial to it. Anyone that want regular cellphone plan will be added accordingly.
Now Microsoft+Nokia will own the third largest provider in the US and breaking into a new era of crystal clear tele communication.
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 5:42 PM EST reply Recommend (22) Flag actions
This would definitely step on everyone’s toes!
Not to mention the “Anti-trust” issues that would be quick to be pointed out!
And then, last but not least, there are carriers in Europe blocking Skype’s services. Normally customers have to pay a different “Plan” for Skype’s apps to work (Skype’s port are being constantly blocked).
And to finish it off, as it’s happening to Netflix, even the bandwidth providers are charging them more than they anticipated. Wouldn’t be shocked if the same happened here lol
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 7:33 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Anti-trust is based on using your domination in one field, ie operating systems, to squash competition in another, ie web browsers. In this case neither Microsoft nor Nokia have any kind of domination of the smartphone market. There is no anti-trust issue here.
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 9:22 PM EST reply Recommend (9) Flag actions
I definitely agree, but it wouldn’t stop companies from doing so!
Posted on Jan 15, 2012 | 12:54 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I definitely think that would throw the bomb on the mobile industry. The only problem with this plan is that you effectively rule out any further collaboration with the carriers to get Windows mobile off the ground.
No way Steve Ballmer is that ballsy if you ask me.
Posted on Jan 15, 2012 | 9:31 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Where is Skype blocked? In Germany and Austria is no carrier blocking Skype.
Posted on Jan 15, 2012 | 5:16 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I have heard of nothing in Europe, but in the ME, UAE blocks it so that it can increase the revenue of the state carriers.
Posted on Jan 16, 2012 | 11:09 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I am surprised Microsoft or Google at this point haven’t tried to buy Tmobile or at least really hook up with a carrier.
Posted on Jan 15, 2012 | 1:35 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Hopefully the app will be out by the time the Lumia 900 and HTC Titan II are released. Skype would obviously be a killer app for those devices.
By the end of the year I hope we’ll see some really nice Skype integration into Xbox 360, Windows 8 Metro, WIndows Phone 8, and Windows Live (Hotmail).
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 8:15 PM EST reply Recommend (3) Flag actions
Ya, maybe in the next generation of kinect it will bring color video and improved accuracy.
Posted on Jan 15, 2012 | 6:59 PM EST via mobile reply Recommend Flag actions
Microsoft are going to combine two things they own. Good job guys.
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 9:49 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
Yess! I don’t know if my HD7 will get the Apollo update or not, so I’m really looking forward to this app!
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 3:36 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
i assume, (like windows) that the hardware requirements will only get lower. and since its the same as every other windows phone on the inside, i dont know why it wouldnt.
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 3:38 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
They’re eventually going to have to leave some devices behind like iOS does. At the very least some OS features are going to have to be reserved for higher speced phones like they are on iOS.
The 2nd generation Windows Phones (Series 2 Snapdragon) have much more powerful GPUs. The 3rd generation WIndows Phones will likely have dual-core processors, more RAM and HD displays. There likely could be features of WIndows Phone 8 that do not run on 1st generation phones.
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 8:18 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
This is inevitable, but Windows Phone is running very smoothy on under specced devices as it is, not to mention the Joe Belfiore interview in which he lays it on the line that their strategy is quality rather than a spec war.
iOS is running its latest version (sans some features) on phones that are three years old, which is double the length of a typical contract. I think Windows phone should be able to pull the same trick, leaving more-or-less no Windows Phone users with an obsolete version of the software in their hands.
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 10:07 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
HD7 is not much slower than the L800 and L900. Will the latter two released now and Apollo allegedly coming in a few months I am sure HD7 will be able to handle it.
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 4:20 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Apollo is wp8 and we still have tango in front of us, Apollo has a release date closer to the end of the year i think.
Anyway, I fully expect wp8 on first Gen hardware, and wp9 with reduced functionality for old devices at the least.
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 4:24 PM EST via mobile reply Recommend Flag actions
I remember hearing Mid 2012 as release date for Apollo. I wouldn’t be surprised is they held of and released W8 and WP8 at the same time, in which case we are looking at some time in Q3’12.
Well, if the new Lumias won’t get upgraded to Apollo I don’t see Windows Phone doing well down the road. This will be an important litmus test for the platform.
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 4:50 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
They’re getting Apollo.
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 5:03 PM EST via mobile reply Recommend Flag actions
I doubt first gen devices will get Apollo, coming from the owner of a first gen device (not trolling).
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 5:48 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
That would be an outrage at best (for MS). I don’t even get one OS update on my device? Def. would never jump back to WP after that decision. (first gen device owner here and loving it since the beginning as well).
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 5:50 PM EST reply Recommend (4) Flag actions
Yeah, that’s the difference between Microsoft and Apple. Microsoft usually supports more devices longer.
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 7:43 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Such as? All the people left high-‘n-dry with a Windows Mobile device? Such as the owners of the Zune HD (which I pre-ordered) that believed in the device and then essentially got SHIT UPON by Microsoft? I’m sure anyone stuck with a Kin device might want to have a word with you as well. The shining beacon of long-term support is not Microsoft, I assure you.
Posted on Jan 15, 2012 | 2:25 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Actually both Zune devices are still supported they just aren’t sold anymore and Kin phones are still being sold today though Verizon Wireless as feature phones (rather then Smartphones)
Posted on Jan 15, 2012 | 8:15 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Also I thought I might add, Microsoft considers the Kin Phones to be Windows Phones little brother and will continue tech support for the devices the same way you would get tech support for Windows Phone.
Posted on Jan 15, 2012 | 8:18 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I don’t see Kins being sold on Verizon’s website…
Posted on Jan 18, 2012 | 7:14 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
There’s at least one or two Tango update(s) coming at the beginning of this year.
Not knowing what Windows Phone 8 is and how big of an update it is, or even when exactly it’s going to be released I can’t really say whether I expect it to be fully compatible with older devices or not.
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 8:31 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Keep in mind that Tango isn’t necessarily going to be adding newer features to Windows Phone. MS has stated numerous times that Tango is going to be used for entry into “emerging markets” and to further expand Windows Phone’s availability world wide. I wouldn’t expect Tango to be released in all the major locations where Windows Phone is available today.
I fully expect Microsoft to make Apollo available for first and second gen devices. Now, the big issue there is the way Microsoft has phrased “only if carriers request the updates.” WTF does that mean? That is a big change from what MS has said in the past, no matter what Joe B has said recently that “as to Windows Phone updates, nothing has changed.”
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 11:56 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
What do you mean by “I don’t even get one OS update on my device?”
You would have had NoDo, Mango & Tango would you not?
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 9:52 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Unless he got a Gen 1 Device with Mango on it, then again it’d be stupid to thing Gen1 devices would miss out since there are Gen2 devices with similar specs to Gen1’s
Posted on Jan 15, 2012 | 1:44 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
“os update” as in wp7 vs wp8, like ios 3 to ios 4.
The other updates count ofc, but I expect at least one full os update for first Gen devices and a cut down update for the next os update after that (exactly the same as the iPhone model).
Posted on Jan 15, 2012 | 4:40 AM EST via mobile reply Recommend Flag actions
Even if they provide an explanation to why my device could not be supported I’d be happy, I was laughing when my second gen iPod touch supposedly didn’t ‘have the power’ to use custom backgrounds.
Posted on Jan 15, 2012 | 11:03 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Well cut down features i can live with as long as i get the update (for security and app compability).
Posted on Jan 15, 2012 | 12:39 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I’d say we get the update but we don’t reap the full benefits of the updated OS. That I’m ok with. Being told “no update”, yeah, that’d be bad news.
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 7:43 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I think the way Apple handles it with iPhone and iPod Touch works pretty well.
It will be interesting to see how Microsoft tackles the problem. Windows Phone 8 devices are likely to be much more powerful than Windows Phone 7 devices were (multi-core CPUs, more RAM, GPU upgrade, HD displays, etc.). That doesn’t mean that Windows Phone 7 devices won’t be capable of running Phone 8 OS, but Microsoft is going to want developers to make apps that take advantage of the increased specs which might not be compatible with the first gen devices.
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 8:23 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
The one relief of owning a WP7 is not worrying if you will get updates. You will, we’re not in Android update hell with our Windows Phones!
Posted on Jan 15, 2012 | 7:56 AM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
Hell, it’s about time!
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 3:37 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Needs a release date in order for there to be any excitement on my end.
It’s been “coming soon” since October 2011
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 3:46 PM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
yesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss !!!!
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 3:47 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
IMO this is taking way too long….have a feeling its to do with the push notifications on Mango as they aren’t great i.e. Tango Video Calls is pretty temperamental along with other free messaging apps such as KIK – good to hear its coming none the less
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 3:48 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
If they are trying to find a workaround for that with the app I don’t see that happening. First off all they need to fix the os feature for notifications, it sucks as it is now.
OR they can embed Skype into the os (which they will eventually do) but even so they should fix the notification issues anyway.
All in all they have no reason to be this late for a simple skype app.
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 4:09 PM EST via mobile reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
How about a real Youtube app also.
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 3:50 PM EST via mobile reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
ask Google
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 3:52 PM EST reply Recommend (22) Flag actions
I don’t think Google is denying themselves ad revenue just to spite a tiny segment of the market.
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 4:10 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I think that you’re incorrect, if you assume that ad revenue is less important to Google than Android adoption.
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 4:12 PM EST reply Recommend (5) Flag actions
Android adoption = ad revenue. Google could care less if people are using Android vs iOS vs Windows Phone, they care about you using their services and generating ad views. Android is just their way to tie you into their services. But they could theoretically generate just as much revenue from other smartphone OS’s.
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 4:22 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Like any sane person would think, I agree too. But ms did come out and say google literally stopped them from integrating YouTube to the phone and denied many API accesses for even a decent app.
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 4:26 PM EST via mobile reply Recommend (15) Flag actions
“Google could care less if people are using Android vs iOS vs Windows Phone”
you are clueless
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 4:58 PM EST reply Recommend (3) Flag actions
When you read all of his post, he’s actually right in that sense.
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 5:03 PM EST reply Recommend (5) Flag actions
Yep. No youtube app makes literally no sense. Google must have decided that WP7 was a threat. HA! Google is jealous.
……..I spun it that way to be nice…..
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 6:45 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
They have less problem with iOS, which has Google as the default search provider than they do with WP7 which would funnel users to Bing.
From Google’s perspective iOS is a competitor that it has to live with, and WP7 is a competitor that it has to destroy. From MS perspective the same is true, iOS is best supported and Android must be ruthlessly attacked.
This is why we get services like YouTube and XBox live on iOS, but WP7 lacks YouTube and Android lacks XBox LIve.
Posted on Jan 15, 2012 | 5:46 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Interesting argument.
But Apple and MS have a common interest to see Google doomed – because Android’s free.
They have a lot of cross-licensing working behind the scenes.
Posted on Jan 16, 2012 | 12:49 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
You can thank Google for that one.
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 4:00 PM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
So then how does iOS have it. Whatever Apple did, Microsoft needs to do it also.
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 7:03 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
From memory Google bidded to be Apple’s main search engine, Google also signed on to make make the Maps and Youtube app (plus a few more) for default.
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 7:05 PM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
Don’t be evil (get more market share) and Santa google might even throw in a few million dollars alongside the API needed.
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 4:11 PM EST via mobile reply Recommend Flag actions
There are several great YouTube apps in the marketplace. None are made by Google or Microsoft but they work far better than the offical app.
Posted on Jan 15, 2012 | 2:03 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
how can a third party app work better than the official app when there is no official app. you make no sense.
Posted on Jan 15, 2012 | 7:30 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
There is an official app made by Google and sold under the Microsoft name. It’s basically a link to the Mobile site but does offer the fuctions of a plug-in (i.e when you click a link to a YouTube video the app launches to play the app.
Posted on Jan 15, 2012 | 8:21 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
My guess is it would have been out earlier but then they went back and revised a big portion of it after the merger closed in order to more deeply link with things.
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 3:51 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
About time too. Just realease the Application in the interim time. Get it out plz.
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 3:54 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
Seriously want to know why the damn thing is taking so long.
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 4:05 PM EST via mobile reply Recommend Flag actions
Oh Microsoft, you can’t even get your own products working on your devices. Reminds me of SYNC only working with iOS and Android. It’d be cute if it wasn’t so sad.
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 4:08 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
Sync should have had been a vital part of the phone from day one. Mug faster pairing and deeper integration with the phone etc. Really surprised that it’s being still ignored.
Ms needs to realize that this kind of support is vital. I want to know that when I buy a ms product it will integrate with all the others perfectly and so far they are slow on delivering.
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 4:29 PM EST via mobile reply Recommend Flag actions
SYNC is only available on Fords in the US, as far as I can tell. Strange that their own product doesn’t work with WP7, but hardly a huge market.
My WP7 handset works just fine in my non-Ford/SYNC card actually. BT streaming etc.
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 4:53 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
That’s not the point i was trying to make. The market size doesnt matter, the message they are giving does.
They should make sure their products work with each other on every occasion, and currently they dont do that (well they do work as you pointed out but i mean great interaction etc.).
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 4:59 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I heard a rumor that in Windows 8 you’ll be able to pair your tablet/PC? with your Windows Phone (don’t know if others will be included, be a damn shame if they aren’t), don’t know what features this will bring except being able to read SMS’s on both Windows 8 and your Windows Phone. Sure there will be an API for this in any case if it turns out to be true.
How is this related to your post, it’s an example of how Microsoft are making their products work together.
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 6:28 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Will be great for me and all the other wp7 users then (wp8 at that point?). But they should speed things up more – not just windows pairing etc, all of their products should have some interaction or another.
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 7:16 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Well as ALL_OS’s posted below Microsoft have a lot of departments, a few too many for it’s own good sometimes so it’s not all together possible to work together on projects unless it makes sense (e.g Skype and pretty much every other major project, Windows 8 and Windows Phone). Also when Sync was first being made Windows Phone was off somewhere else also being made.
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 7:28 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Oh wow my bad, TBH I don’t know much about Ford Sync and that lead to my mistake of assuming it was made by Microsoft. It was in fact not made by Microsoft, it’s just powered by Microsoft’s Windows Embedded Automotive which Ford had an exclusive agreement with Microsoft to use until that deal expired in November 2008.
In any case just read my above comment and ignore the part about Ford Sync.
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 7:34 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
My Ford SYNC has worked just fine with my WP& Samsung since I bought it.
Posted on Jan 15, 2012 | 10:28 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Microsoft is too big for it’s own good. It, on occasion, serves them, but I bet the majority of the SYNC team has never met the WP7 team. There are too many divisions, and it’s hurting WP7.
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 6:47 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I just checked the Ford Sync website, and it shows that it is compatible with WP7.
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 10:34 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
This seems to be true.
http://www.nsapp.fordtechservice.dealerconnection.com/sync/usEN/sync_us_EN_iop_2_00.pdf
I am assuming, of course, that all/most Windows Phones should operate the same as the HTC Surround…
Posted on Jan 15, 2012 | 2:52 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
You’re talking about the software company that thinks it makes perfect sense to ship an operating system with two media players, then put out a phone and portable media platform that requires the user to…download a 3rd media player application.
Microsoft’s separate divisions are like a mythological Hydra, only each of the heads is either brain-damaged or intoxicated, and each one wants to walk in a different direction.
Posted on Jan 15, 2012 | 2:32 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Is there every a good time to buy a Windows phone? It seems like all the good stuff is always coming in the next release.
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 4:29 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
The answer to that is any time.
Everything that gets released is added to your os via updates you’re guaranteed to get, so just go and get the one you like and dont worry about the features yet to be released.
Having said that, I’m really trying to ignore the troll in that comment but it’s pretty obvious, don’t troll please.
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 4:32 PM EST via mobile reply Recommend (7) Flag actions
yeah, go buy all the windows phones out there now because they will all fully support the app that this article is about. Don’t worry about not having a front-facing camera, i’m sure a software update will cover that. 1080p video too.. /s
Posted on Jan 15, 2012 | 7:36 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Just like with every other platform/device … the next version is always (usually) better than the previous, as it should be.
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 4:56 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
Thats the definition of Android.
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 5:07 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Weird that it’s taking this long, I wonder what the hold up is……..
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 5:22 PM EST via mobile reply Recommend Flag actions
Bye Tango sorry, but… So glad MS bought Skype. I am really waiting for Skype to be built into XBOX, that will be the killer XBOX app, of the many XBOX apps to come. Where is that story?
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 5:22 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Skype + Kinect = Win
Posted on Jan 15, 2012 | 2:56 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Yeah. Kinect’s head tracking will really help Skype.
Posted on Jan 15, 2012 | 7:59 AM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
No — you’re not getting it: full-body virtual phone sex via Kinect-ed avatars. This could be the geek Rapture!
Posted on Jan 15, 2012 | 4:06 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
With the Windows 8 beta be released in February and Windows Phone 8 to have a lot of similarities to Windows 8, shouldn’t we expect a preview of Windows Phone 8 at World Mobile Congress?
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 5:29 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
We’ll should get some kind of big news a MWC. That’s where Windows Phone was first announced in 2010 and I think where Mango was first previewed.
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 10:40 PM EST via mobile reply Recommend Flag actions
Wait, what? I thought the irony was just that it wasn’t integrated well yet, not that it wasn’t running at all. Uhh, yeah, so Nokia management definitely made the right choice jumping over to the mature OS of WP7 from the immature Harmattan—-oh, sorry, excuse me for a moment while I take a Skype call which is integrated into the calling system of my N9 I’m typing this from just like normal phone callkng is, and is thus completely seamless, in stark contrast to nonexistent. Yeah, it’s a good thing Nokia management chose to ignore their engineers and ditched Linux, the last thing Nokia needs right now ks a fully featured OS. Phew, dodged that bullet.
(Apologies for borderline trolling, but…seriously now?)
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 5:36 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
As a windows phone owner myself (and have been since the launch, 12months or so) i agree on the “integration” part.
This is ridicilious, ms needs to realise that wp must have TOP priorty into linking to ALL of MS’es services at premium quality, and must also have TOP priority at the speed it accomplishes this especially with important services like skype.
This kind of thing bothers me, it’s almost as they’re being greedy with the wp7 team and not sourcing them enough to accomplish all this fast enough.
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 5:49 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
You’re basing your entire argument on the maturity of WP7 and Meego based on a single service. You should be apologizing.
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 10:36 PM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
Well, that’s the topic here; I just didn’t feel like it would have been worthwhile to go on a long rant (typed by my thumbs, no less) detailing WP7’s lack of maturity versus Harmattan here. That doesn’t mean those points don’t exist. So, sure, lets compare the Lumia 800 and the N9 (cribbed partially from Thomas Perl, a guy who does a lot of software dev for Nokia devices).
-Lumia can’t be used as USB mass storage.
-If you turn off the Lumia, wake-up alarms won’t work unlike the N9, which will turn itself back on and ring the alarm
-If you receive a call from a number that’s not on your phone book, you can’t directly add it to your phone book – you have to copy the number, then go to the contacts, create a new contact and paste the number there – on the N9, there’s a button for this – and it even allows you to “Add new” or "Merge"’
-WP7 doesn’t support NFC yet, while Harmattan does.
-The N9 displays the time and notifications (calls/sms/email/etc) on the standby screen, letting you glance at it without turning the display “on”; WP7 doesn’t do anything like that to take advantage of AMOLED screens.
-With the N9, you can send and receive files of any kind over bluetooth; WP7 can’t send or receive bluetooth files, unless it’s been added recently and I hadn’t heard (I’ve heard you need a third-party app just to transfer contacts).
-Harmattan gives haptic feedback for the keyboard; WP7 can only do audio.
-Even the N9 has Swype.
I could go on, but my point is, you should be apologizing yourself ;)
Posted on Jan 15, 2012 | 4:26 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Last time I looked the iPhone doesn’t have half of these features, are you saying that the iPhone is not a mature platform?
- This was done by design, does not show lack of maturity (also neither can the iPhone)
- Never seen this as a problem, as my Windows Phone never gets turned off, when I go to bed at night it sits in my dock and charges.
- If you go to the Phone tile you are shown a History, if you touch the number you want to save it’ll take you to a page which allows you to call it or text it, down the bottom is a Save icon, if you select it, it allows you to save to a current contact or make an entirely new one.
- Microsoft has clearly said it’ll be supported in the future (aka. Apollo/WP8) and OEM’s could include NFC now if they wished.
- Neither does any other phone in the world, that I’ve seen, however WP7 does allow you to see all your notifications (Missed calls, SMS, Email, Calendar) at a glance without doing anything except pressing the power button.
ETC
These features are not “missing” on Windows Phone, some of them were left out by design to be added later or not at all. What the above clearly states is that you want a N9 or an Android which will let you do these things. Most of those features that are “missing” no one would even use, I mean USB mass storage? Really? I use Skydrive and I’ve never looked back.
Posted on Jan 15, 2012 | 8:37 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Still bitter huh? Just be glad that at least Nokia has a partner with deep pockets that’s building an ecosystem up. Nokia had NOTHING with Meego but a nice OS, no NA carrier support and little to no apps available.
-Sent from my Lumia800
Posted on Jan 15, 2012 | 4:34 PM EST via mobile reply Recommend Flag actions
March 18th.
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 5:37 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
About time. Now how about a Photosynth app for WP7? That’s one of the coolest technologies that Microsoft has, to the point where its first impression wow-factor has the ability to sell phones, and their mobile app is exclusive to iPhone. They really need to get their ducks in a row up there in Redmond.
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 5:45 PM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
I thought releasing Photosynth on iPhone first was genius.
Firstly, It made iPhone users curious about why MS ‘favoured’ them over WP users – and most probably got them to download it, since it’s free!
Secondly, Photosynth requires a Window Live ID, so the iPhone user has unwittingly entered and broadened the Windows Live ecosystem.
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 8:02 PM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
BINGO!!!!
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 8:41 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
Really, Skype is on every major platform except MS’ mobile one? MS still freaking clueless.
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 5:55 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
You’re ignoring the fact that all the other apps were released before Microsoft bought Skype. Also the Skype devision is currently working on a dozen projects at once; building an app for Windows Phone, Intergrating into Windows Phone, Intergrating/Building an app for Windows 8, Intergrating/Building an app for Xbox, keeping all their current apps up to date (e.g Bug free), also along with all this they are most likely combining WLM with Skype and Lync. Mix that in with a transition period and you’d see that the Skype devision have not been sitting on their asses doing nothing.
I’d rather an awesome product then a crappy one tyvm.
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 6:40 PM EST reply Recommend (8) Flag actions
Are you really trying to convince me it takes a development team more than 2 months to make a Skype app? Pretty sure Skype was going to build a WP7 app anyway and had some development done already before the acquisition.
MS still clueless.
Posted on Jan 15, 2012 | 1:39 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
no it doesn’t. but you like many other MS haters (it’s kinda obvious) like to talk before you actually know what is going on. i’d have to search to find it, but i know for sure it has been mentioned before that the app itself isn’t what’s taking a long time, it’s actually all the regulatory approval stuff that had to be done since MSFT did just buy one of the most dominant VoIP companies on the planet.
I guess the powers that be had to make sure that msft wouldn’t be using the purchase as a club to beat down other platforms.
Sorry to burst your microsoft hating bubble man…
Posted on Jan 15, 2012 | 6:26 AM EST reply Recommend (3) Flag actions
yeah that’s also a lot of work for 400 engineers to do. skype isn’t really a big company with tons of expendable man hours at play…
Posted on Jan 16, 2012 | 4:25 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Skype for kinect too?
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 6:46 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
That would be Skype for XBOX. Yeah, everyone is 99.999% sure that’s coming.
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 6:50 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
By that I assume you mean Xbox then yes it’s confirmed, if you’re wondering if the Xbox app will allow you to use Kinect as a webcam….it’d be stupid of them not to include it as an option, so I think that yes, we can assume that Skype for Xbox will be able to use Kinect..
If however you’re talking about Kinect for Windows…..it all depends if Skype picks it up as a video source or not. Best guess…yes you’d be able to use Kinect for Windows with the current Skype client. If not then I daresay some talented developer somewhere should start working on an add-on.
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 6:51 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Since when has that ever stopped
Microsoftany large company?Posted on Jan 15, 2012 | 4:28 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
It’s obvious you’re just trolling now so I’m going to ignore you.
Posted on Jan 15, 2012 | 8:38 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
It’s about time!
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 6:57 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Great.
When’s the Xbox Skype App arriving?
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 7:23 PM EST via mobile reply Recommend Flag actions
Will it be an app? Surely they’ll go one better and just integrate it in the system.
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 8:03 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
MS have never integrated anything into the Xbox dash. Far from being the Metro style live tiles on Win Phone, the Xbox dash is just a bunch of ads and links to apps. Wouldn’t it be nice if they could push Facebook/Twitter updates direct to the dash? Or show allow you to pick up what you were watching in Netflix from a live tile, without having to wait a minute or so for the app to load?
I’m sure it will all be lovely in Xbox 3, but the Xbox 360 stuff feels like a Metro skin over something much more primitive.
Posted on Jan 15, 2012 | 4:19 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Of course it’s done that way, since this was built over something that was was released 5 years ago.
Posted on Jan 15, 2012 | 5:13 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Fuckin’ A, Cotton.
Posted on Jan 14, 2012 | 8:55 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
That’s one more essential app ticked off, but there are so many more. Where, for example, is Audible?
Posted on Jan 15, 2012 | 4:17 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Listen, instead of reacting that ’it’s about time to have the Skype app available" we might just be better off with them developing a great Skype app instead of getting a half finished product.
Hopefully, they will integrate it with the address book, like FaceTime does it on the address book/contactlist in iOS.
Posted on Jan 15, 2012 | 8:45 AM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
Microsoft must first publish Tango update with support for Skype’s SILK protocol/codec.
Posted on Jan 15, 2012 | 10:08 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Does that mean Skype is coming to the Xbox as well? Xbox Live needs to be integrated with Skype in some way, it would be great to be able to call ur Skype contact via Xbox and the WP7
Posted on Jan 15, 2012 | 12:28 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I hope Microsoft does with Skype what apple is doing with face time. Allow Skype to do voice calls with someone by realizing that both of you have windows phones. Or even who you are calling has a Skype app. The the voice calling would just be integrated into the phone using Skype. Possibly use Skype for texts as apple is doing it’s own texts. Probably make these optional but they could do this really well.
Posted on Jan 15, 2012 | 12:41 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I daresay it’ll be added in Apollo but Skype chat would be added much like Facebook Chat and Messenger are currently intergrated into the phone, also I daresay for my skype contacts one or two new options will be added; Call Skype and Video Call Skype.
Posted on Jan 15, 2012 | 8:40 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
VERY glad to hear it!!! Now Windows Phone looks like absolute win! Love my Lumia 800 even more: :)
Posted on Jan 15, 2012 | 7:59 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
at the end Q4 they will compete with both quality and spec
Posted on Jan 16, 2012 | 2:37 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Reminds me once again that the Lumia 800 is a stunning handset but doesn’t have a front-facing camera like it’s sibling, the N9.
Posted on Jan 22, 2012 | 7:25 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Can the Verge add like a last updated section to stories on the title banner page thing? Then I’d know if a story has been updated without having to open it up to see “no, i’ve already read this and its not been updated”….
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 2:32 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
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