Microsoft may be preparing to discontinue its virtual currency system by the end of the year. Inside Mobile Apps reports that the software giant will phase out Microsoft Points in favor of real money based on the local region of Xbox Live accounts. The move may sound surprising, but Microsoft has already started to introduce cash purchases for its full Xbox Live games instead of using the points system.
Microsoft Points allow customers to exchange money for allotments of points to purchase game add-ons, themes, gamertag pictures, and more. The points can also be used in the Zune Marketplace to purchase music and videos. Microsoft has long been criticized for its approach to the virtual points system, with most criticism focusing on the fact that users have to purchase points in increments. 80 Microsoft Points converts to one dollar in the US, and users often have to purchase more than they actually require, resulting in a confusing experience for consumers.
Windows Phone accepts Microsoft Points for Xbox Live avatar items, but game purchases and applications use traditional currency. Despite the broad, but inconsistent, use of Microsoft Points, it makes sense that Microsoft could be looking to phase the system out, although we cannot verify the report. Windows 8, Microsoft's next-generation operating system, is expected to debut later this year and will include Xbox LIVE integration. The Windows Store, used to purchase apps and games on Windows 8, will use cash instead of Microsoft Points, and the timing appears to coincide with Microsoft's broader strategy to simplify and consolidate its Xbox, Windows and Phone platforms, both in user interface and functionality. The company isn't discussing any plans for Microsoft Points, saying it "doesn't comment on rumours or speculation."


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If I have MS points now and I dont use it, will it get transferred to cash credit or will I lose it once the points are phased out?
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 4:07 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
If you read the original article on Inside Mobile Apps, it says:
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 5:45 AM EST reply Recommend (7) Flag actions
thanks
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 4:09 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I think MS points were quite good as it was hassle free.
Posted on Feb 09, 2012 | 8:29 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
And what about the XBL Rewards program? Are they going to carry that on, but giving away real money?
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 10:27 AM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
I hope they don’t stop doing discounted point cards. Everything on XBL is super cheap for me because I get those point cards for 30% off.
Also I hope this doesn’t mean I’m going to have to pay tax the stuff I buy on XBL. Buying games and apps on Windows Phone is much more expensive because they don’t use the MS Points system. : (
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 3:10 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I think people are getting confused. Getting rid of the points currency doesn’t mean they’re getting rid of the requirement to carry a balance on XBL. All that is changing is that MS points will be listed as dollars/pounds/etc.
You may still be required to purchase a $5 balance to buy anything on XBL, it will just be listed as $5 instead of 400 points now.
The point cards are definitely not going away since they are one of the biggest money makers for the Xbox division and the most successful item in the entire video game industry.
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 3:23 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 4:09 AM EST reply Recommend (21) Flag actions
I want a pepsi now.
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 4:16 AM EST reply Recommend (5) Flag actions
hahahhahahaahaha
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 9:39 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Thank you, Chuck Norris
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 9:16 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I have an Xbox and I don’t even know what MS points are . (I don’t play online, maybe that’s why)
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 4:15 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
If you want to purchase DLC packs, you must pay with Microsoft Points, too.
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 4:20 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
What? ……. how old are you? Thats a bit impossible to believe.
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 5:21 AM EST via mobile reply Recommend (8) Flag actions
lol, you don’t have to believe me, I just don’t know what it was, I don’t play my Xbox that much, maybe I just never noticed it for some reason
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 8:31 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
What’s an Xbox? Who are Microsoft?
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 11:24 AM EST via mobile reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
That means you’ve never purchased an XBLA game…….How is that possible?
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 11:57 AM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
One person’s “OMG THIS IS AMAZING” is another persons “Meh”.
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 12:14 PM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
This was one of the most annoying thing when I got my Xbox 360 on last Thanksgiving. It was very confusing to me why I need to buy points instead of just paying dollars. It’s just an unnecessary stage to make a purchase. Just throw its current system in a garbage, Microsoft!
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 4:19 AM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
Nintendo needs to drop the points system too.
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 8:05 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
They have for the 3DS, it’s all in your local currency. However you still have to top up by a certain amount then spend from your eShop balance. A little annoying, but better than points.
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 9:41 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I’m not sure if I missed the option at first or if they’ve changed it recently, but last time I made a purchase on the 3DS eShop, it gave me the option to use the credit I had on my account and just pay the remaining balance. So you have the option to do either now.
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 10:22 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Yeah like Popple3 said they already have with the 3DS, and they’re going to phase them out on Wii/DSi.
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 2:32 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
The MS Points system was create to always leave you with either not enough points to make a purchase or more than you need to make a purchase. This ensures that you always have a small remainder of points. You are much more likely to make an impulse buy if you have almost enough points for something as opposed to having no points.
It’s kind of like hot dogs coming in packs of eight while most hot dog buns come in packs of six. It keeps you buying one to use up the other.
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 8:57 AM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
Personally I’d just double stuff two of the buns. Seems like a better solution. ;)
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 9:42 AM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
The MS point system was to save MS money from being charged. I don’t recall exactly the reason but it was because having consumer use cash and credit will force MS to pay more or something.
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 11:39 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
They could have done that with real dollars though if they required you to top up in increments of say $5, it’s more to obscure the price so you don’t know how much you are paying.
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 11:43 AM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
They could still force you to buy a minimum of $5 credit for each transaction; only now instead of saying you have a 400 point balance it will say you have a $5 balance. That would be the smartest thing to do.
If they make it so that you pay for items directly then they will hurt sales. Having a left over balance gets you to spend more money over time and it allows them to earn a lot of interest on the money you are not spending (similar to gift cards at retailers).
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 3:15 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Im a bit indifferent about this. I think people were more likely to spend with the points because it turns into the hot dog / hot dog bun tragedy of always having to get one of the two. At this point, people are also much more trusting of DLC because of the widespread use of apps and other “fun” virtual things that people have valued worthy of purchasing (I’m looking at you, Zynga). MS Points come from another era.. 2005 was a primitive time…
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 4:20 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
This is going to bed very bad for a lote of Chinese people who seem to make a living selling points below the local prices on eBay…
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 4:37 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
You’ll have to excuse me if I don’t shed a tear for them.
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 7:18 AM EST reply Recommend (5) Flag actions
are you serious? they do that? boy they get into everything.
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 11:56 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I don’t think the point cards are going away. It’s one of the biggest money makers for the Xbox division. According to the NPD the XBL point cards have been the biggest selling item each month in the game industry for many years.
I still think you will be expected to carry a balance on Xbox Live. The balance will just be in dollar amounts instead of points.
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 3:18 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
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Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 4:38 AM EST reply Recommend (1) Flag actions
*lot
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 5:45 AM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
Well, this is going to be bad news for me and many others. It’ll basically be impossible for international Xbox live users who can’t own a US credit card and have set their live accounts with a US address to access US only content, we buy points to skip the credit card verification process. Better start stacking up on points then.
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 4:47 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Why?
So not being in US is irrelevant…I’m in the UK, and I pay with my UK credit card.Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 5:44 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Wait, that can’t be right. You’re using a UK card with a US Live account?
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 6:50 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
but what about PayPal? I use the american Xbox Live, but I can use my brazilian credit card through Paypal easily. have you tried that?
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 6:39 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
im sure you can still buying point cards in store with cash like they have for the playstation network…although if you dont live in the US and you have to use cards specifically sold in the US, then this wont help you
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 6:41 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
There are always those prepaid VISA cards, but if they are tying to make everything seamless I would think they would want to be in as many markets as possible.
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 10:57 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
this is a welcome move for me – now all they need to do is stop overpricing stuff, example £15-20 for fable 2 download and you get no disc/manual but i can pick it up NEW in the shop for £5-10
you would think that being a fairly up to date company microsoft wouldnt keep acting like ebook publishers and publishing ebooks at the full price of a hard back despite no print cost, matching the price of a paperback would be fairer
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 4:52 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
One of the main reasons MS Points were introduced is that in most countries minors can’t have credit cards, but they can buy Points. Additionally, most young adults in many Non-US countries don’t have a credit cards either, as our economies don’t rely on them like the US do.
If MS is really going to lose the Points, they HAVE to introduce another way of paying for content to not lose a lot of customers. It’s frustrating if you want to give money to a company, but there’s just no way for you to do it.
.Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 5:16 AM EST reply Recommend (3) Flag actions
There’s nothing stopping Microsoft from selling cards that add currency to an account like Sony does. Sony deals with real money, yet you can walk into a store and buy a card with cash and it would put that amount of cash on your account.
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Sony+-+PlayStation+Network+Card+($20)/8945804.p?id=1215819130058&skuId=8945804&cmp=RMX&ref=06&loc=01&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=8945804
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 6:00 AM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
I’m not saying that I like MS Points, but MS has to provide alternatives to credit card. If they do it like Sony, fine by me.
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 6:26 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Do those ever go on sale? I would much rather save $5 then worry about leftover points.
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 10:41 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Isn’t Paypal a supported platform of currency transaction? I thought the whole point of Paypal’s existence was to also circumvent the need for having a credit card. Though I do understand that if you are a minor, or just plain ole don’t have a bank account its going to be hard for you to use Paypal as well, but I think that’s what MS was anticipating for the future.
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 1:27 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Thank you! …. Points system was terrible! Since I could never buy the exact amout of points I neeeded for something. Always forcing me to buy extra. If i could use real money I would spend more on Live no doubt brcause know exactly what Imm spending.
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 5:24 AM EST via mobile reply Recommend Flag actions
About time.
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 6:08 AM EST via mobile reply Recommend Flag actions
One of my major complaints of microsoft points was that it plays on the same psychology of the “9” pricing scheme. When something is priced at $9.99 people will get a feeling that it is cheaper than 10 dollars, even though it is only by 1 cent, thats why everything is priced ending in .99 or .9something. This equivalent in MS points is 400 points for $5 and 800 points for 10$ etc. It makes the same psychological impact. When you see a game or dlc for 800 points, you think, “its only 800 points!” but thats still 10 dollars.
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 6:36 AM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
It seems like they’ve been intending to phase them out for a while now. If I buy an album from the Zune Market on my computer I have to use MS Points, but if I buy the same album from the Zune Market on my Windows Phone it uses a straight dollar amount charged to my credit card.
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 7:12 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
About Dod Gamn time.. Stupidest thing ever. Go make a points purchase so you can then make a thing purchase. Just let me give you my money once straight up and at an obvious exchange rate.. stupid.
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 7:59 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
This is great news. The points are so stupid.
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 8:12 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
The point system never bothered me, don’t know why some people are so bothered by it. Nonetheless the change ok.
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 11:10 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Damn, quite enjoyed getting cheap points cards and buying games in sale felt like I was getting a good deal. I remember once paying £4 for a 2100 points card.
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 8:18 AM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
Thank goodness. I had bought Microsoft Points to buy games for my Windows Phone, but found out afterwards that doing so wasn’t possible.
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 8:36 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Loooooooooooonnnnngggg overdue. Especially confusing to newbies are the achievement points that mean nothing in the monetary department. Someone that plays THAT many games and acquires THAT many achievment points, should be rewarded with the ability to use THOSE point to PURCHASE movies etc. And if they want to rent movies etc, they better make them $1.99 instead of $4.99. It’s freaking digital media, costs them nothing to push that stuff out. No shipping , no boxes, NOTHING.
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 9:21 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I love the point card system. They go on sale all the time. I can often find them for five bucks off. There is no sale on real money so if this goes away complete it would suck.
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 9:52 AM EST reply Recommend (2) Flag actions
Good point, I have ofter bought discounted points on eBay. Those days are soon to be over I am afraid.
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 11:11 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Unless you’re talking about those sales buy.com does through its eBay store, most of them are probably stolen :/
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 11:34 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
No, I am talking about sales from almost every major American retailer at one point or another.
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 11:39 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Thank the goodness. I have always hated MS points for having to buy specific increments that don’t align with the prices in the marketplace. I’ve even no purchased some games because it is too much hassle/I’ll have to pay more than the game to get the game.
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 11:00 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
This might hurt them in the end. It’s the same reason casinos use chips, it’s easier to lose a piece of plastic with 100 written on it than handing over a crisp 100 dollar bill. It’s easier to “use” 1000 points rather than .. whatever the rate is.. to “pay” 20 bucks.
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 11:58 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I know to us adults this seems like an obvious move but i imagine points will not go away all together. They already let you purchase things (possibly not everything as i’m sure they don’t want credit card transaction fee’s on a 50 cent purchase) with a linked credit card and the points are completely necessary as millions of their customers do not have a credit card (nor will their parents trust them to have one). I personally love points cards because it’s an easy answer to any ‘what should i get for….’. I fully understand the points system is completely in Microsofts favor but I’m sure Walmart and Amazon would not be thrilled to hear they’ll no longer be able to take a meager cut of this profit.
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 12:34 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
If this is true, I may actually start spending money on XBL again. Over the past year I’ve become so completely turned off by the points system that the only time I’ll purchase anything is if I can completely get rid of any points I purchase.
No easy task. I’ve passed on several games that I’d like to play because I’d have to buy a useless amount of points.
At least in the USA you can buy points in nice round 400 point amounts, but in Canada we can only get them in 500, 1000, and 1500 bundles, which don’t easily get divided into the amount most content I want costs. So I just don’t bother anymore. Steam and PSN lets me spend the exact amount of money I need to. Much proffered.
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 12:53 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
GOOD!
I hate MS points. I just want XBLA purchases to debit my CC directly. Hope it’s true.
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 12:59 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
This could be the smartest move Microsoft has made in awhile.
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 1:39 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
I thought it was a stupid move in the first place.
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 3:14 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
DAMN NOW I WILL KNOW HOW MUCH MONEY AM BLOWING ON VIDEO GAMES AND MOVIES!!!!
Posted on Jan 24, 2012 | 2:53 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Long time in coming.
Microsoft points wouldn’t be that big of a deal if 100 MS Points = $1. But since its 80 points = $1, trying to do math on a large number of points is more work than necessary.
Posted on Jan 25, 2012 | 4:57 PM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
Time to stock up on cheap MS Points!
Posted on Jan 30, 2012 | 8:13 AM EST reply Recommend Flag actions
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