I know. I was trying to mock the haters who call Microsoft late to everything, including times when they’re too early.
No one is going to own my wrist. I’m going to sit this one out. I’ll just wear this instead:
about what exactly is your doubt ? the whole topic ?
I don’t doubt WP’s rise, I don’t think any reasonable person would. I’m just not sure if I’m getting what your graphs are. Are you suggesting a 7% – 9% marketshare by Q4? Or just 7%-9% of sold devices in Q4?
how do one even count “installed base” , “or active users” . and “web usage” is a very bad metric
Installed base and active users, etc. I guess this is done at the app-store level. If you have three Windows phones, one you’re using and the others are in the drawer, the one you use will surely download an app or update. You will be considered an “active user” (over the past 6 months) and the others, although already counted as sales, are “inactive.”
Web-usage is a bad metric and it’s often used against WP. The suggestion is that most WPs are being sold as glorified feature phones in poor countries and so whatever success it has “doesn’t really count” compared to iOS, for example, where iPhones are considered “real” smartphones.
The argument is that iPhone users buy phones and use them to go to the internet. WP users buy phones to make phone-calls. They cite web-usage stats to show that WP is really less than 1% of the “market” – the “smartphone” market, not the “feature phone” market.
The argument obviously overlooks the fact that Windows phone has a lot of success in poor countries where 3G/LTE is spotty, expensive or non-existent. It also overlooks the fact that some people use smartphones to use offline apps.
Having said all that, I wanted you to go out on a limb and give us your prediction in this format “x-percent by Qx 20xx.” But that’s the gambler in me talking.
Typical Microsoft. Late to everything, even to the 80’s.
Faith in Microsoft? I barely have faith in humanity.
brrunoPT, what does all that mean? What I mean by that is say your statement in one line “WP will hit x% by this time” so that we can say “you were right/wrong.”
The thing is there’s a lot of WP being sold in unofficial channels. Because of WP’s love for carrier exclusivity, I buy mine unlocked from eBay from Asia. I don’t know how or if these sales are registered.
I don’t know how these sales stats are calculated, but in some countries they don’t count them very well, that’s why people are moving to new stats like “installed base,” “web usage,” “active users” and such.
They also killed the Zune. History is filled with write-offs. Even my company has been involved in some embarrassing (in retrospect) acquisitions.
But do you really believe that Microsoft will walk away from mobile computing? Saying “We kind of tried for 5 years, it didn’t work. Let’s just call it quits. Let’s see make a Lumia Nexus like those renders we saw”?
Yeah. They bought Nokia just to shut down the project peacefully and quietly.
Hold on, hold on. It’s Black Michael Jackson vs White Michael Jackson? And all this time I was thinking it was Alive Michael Jackson vs Dead Michael Jackson?
LOL. It’s true. Hipsters are easy targets, drinking from jars, with their beards and plaid shirts. The thing is, when your friend is a hipster, do you just constantly tell him that Boards of Canada suck or that vinyl is dead? Even before saying “hello”?
Shit. I just tried to dig and dig through my memories for a rumor about the SP3 and nothing. Panos just walked on stage, pulled it out of nowhere and just said “voila!” I remember, because I would’ve asked the maid to vacuum the floor had I known my jaw was about to hit.
Seriously, this phrase sums it up perfectly:
To them tech is just another thing they want to “win”
I use all major platforms and I like Microsoft’s products, as opposed to the rest of the world who hate them, so many people consider me “on their side” lol. But I didn’t want Microsoft to buy Twitch (apparently they made an offer) because they could’ve gimped it for the PS4 or made it an XB exclusive. Why not? It’s theirs.
I’m not a console gamer, so it doesn’t really affect me personally, but I believe in competition. I don’t want XBOX to “win” or PS4 to “win” or any of that crap. Let them both make money and come at each other in the next round. People don’t get it that once one side wins, the consumer loses, as simple as that.
People actually believe that if the PS4 forces Microsoft out of the market, then Sony can focus on being the nice, pleasant, friendly company we knew it really is deep down, lol.
They’re corporations and they all have done some shitty stuff in the past and some still do.
Don’t people just buy products anymore? Does it have to come with a subscription to the cult?
I believe the OP was talking about renaming the OS, not the devices. Microsoft already has the Lumia brand. If you rename the OS as Surface, then you’ll end up with “HTC One M8 with Surface” and Prestigio with Surface, Yezz with Surface. But then what the hell is the Surface 2 tablet if my phone already has Surface 8.1?
The hardware and software should remain two different brands.
Could it not work? “I bought a dub(l)you”? I’ve said it too many times to hear it out that it kind of lost meaning and it’s just some sound to me now. I need to give it more time.
“Really? On Android or on dublyou.”
Maybe it’s too street and doesn’t work very well in writing.
iOS also has three syllables, but most people say “iPhone” and “iPad” – I guess most people could just say Lumia or One, Xperia, etc, but Android (the group) has a cool, short, snappy collective name.
So in most common usage:
“I bought an iPhone”
“I bought an Android”
“I bought a Windows Phone.”
Microsoft’s naming is a hit and miss. Windows Phone is closer in naming to “Windows Millennium Edition” than it is to “Surface” or XBox. The Phone is used as a modifier of Windows of some sort as opposed to genitive (A phone of windows/Windows) or dative (A phone for windows/Windows), so in your mind you assume the word “Edition” or “Version.”
It’s closer to being “Windows, Mini Version” than to being something of its own like the Zune or the XBox.
I don’t know if it’s too late to change this, but they could sneak in a nickname if they wanted to and hope it catches on.
Don’t most people say “Doublyu” especially for www. and WWF and such? Or do people only do that for acronyms?
In German, “W” is pronounced “vay,” maybe it would be cool over here, but nowhere else I guess.
Holy shit. I just did the math and it checks out!
Android L (L=12) / Android’s age (6 years in November) = 2 + One (duh) + Zero = 3, thus confirming Half-Life 3, Valve’s purchase of Twitch and their release of a WebOS (0S?) phone.
Shit. Just. Got. Real.
Coke has done it before and Street Fighter too, but the prediction was more of a “warning, don’t use, everybody’s about to go Zero.” If the HTC One were HTC Zero, that would’ve been fine (and different), but if their next device were to be called Zero, there might be a lot of other Zeros out there, which is what we saw with the Ones.
It’s not so much about the name, but about the timing. The tech world really went overboard with the Ones and the warning was about avoiding Zero because the same thing looks likely.
The thing about it is that these products, names and marketing campaigns take a long time to develop, so by the time they realize that everyone is doing something similar, it’s too late to change. It’s like seeing a train crash in slow motion.
I hope that other people and companies avoid using Zero and just let Yakuza have it. I hope that humanity learned from the One episode.
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