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Here’s my theory.

WP8 is going to come to any existing device with a 1.4hGhz processor.

On the one hand, MS can’t afford to piss off the carriers by making devices that are as much as 2 years old into what basically amounts to a new phone.

On the other hand, they can’t afford to piss off the recent adopters and their new fair haired OEM, Nokia.

They need a plausible line in the sand somewhere between the two for which phones can “handle” the upgrade, and which can’t.

I’ve had this thought for a while now, but it was the recent announcement of a change to the ZTE Tania that really made me think I might be onto something.

The Tania was originally launched with a 1Ghz processor, but for it’s release in China it’s going to have a 1.4Ghz brain.

When was the last time you heard of an OEM upgrading to a more expensive processor on a perfectly functioning device that is barely 4 months old?

Why would ZTE spend the extra cash for the faster processor…. so the phone will get WP8 come fall.

anecdotal evidence meet ego.

and by “special” you mean Dvorak, n’est pas?

Interestingly, not only has The Woz tweeted about his now found love for WP, but I happened to see comedians Andy Dick and Wayne Brady are raving about their new Lumia 900s as well.

•"There is no evidence that people want to use these things." (John C. Dvorak, San Francisco Examiner, February 19, 1984)

It’s nice to know that Dvorak has always been a douche.

I may be completely whack-a-doodle with this thought, but I’ve been considering the idea of a smaller high density touch display for my desktop with Windows 8. IIRC Sinfosky made a comment along the lines of the that the desktop paradigm would be rethought with the coming of Windows 8. That seems the logical answer to me.

It takes you to the Microsoft Hub page, not the Tribe Forum list.

I’m kinda thinking you might want to turn that question on it’s head.

The word is, 40 x86 devices and 5 ARM available on launch day.

I’m fine with the lack of pages, but besides “edit” and “sig line”, a hot link at the bottom of the thread that would take us back to the Tribe main forum page would be nice

I believe it makes a statement. That I’m willing to stand behind what I say, and be accountable for it.

Joel Rushworth
Victoria, B.C.

**give me a signature line as well as an edit function damn it!

Firstly, I don’t think it’s written anywhere that Nokia is the only one allowed to mess with the WP Software. As a matter of fact, the impression I got was that it was more a collaboration that would eventually benefit all WP OEMs. And I think it should be made clear that I see a large difference between exclusive apps, something that should be encouraged to allow OEMs the ability to differentiate their devices from others (competition makes the breed stronger) and messing with the OS, which would result in fragmentation.

**(pre post edit, seems I went off on a bit of a tangent, but I’m going to leave these next few paragraphs in here)

Although I’ve never owned an Android device, I spend a lot of time driving in my job, and listen to pretty much every tech podcast I can get my hands on (Techfoolery is my current fave, I laugh my butt off). There seems to be a pretty consistent thread about Android skins and fragmentation. If you’re willing to accept that the OEMs have limited resources, it would seem that on Android a lot of that available effort goes into skinning the phones with what seems to be regarded as unsatisfactory results, and that these skins result in delays of updates.

I think an advantage WP offers the consumer is directing/limiting the competition between OEMs to Apps/Software and Form Factor. By MS keeping the OEM’s and Carriers from getting a chance to screw up the OS, they have to direct their resources into developing Apps that differentiate them from the others. Plus, the form factor becomes more important, and I think that will lead to more beautiful devices.

To address your question specifically, I can think of Samsung’s “All Share” features. I currently own 3 Sammy “All Share” enabled TVs, and would give a WP8 device with compatibility to these features some serious consideration.

More importantly, why would MS ever limit who could manufacture WP hardware, they’ve never done this with PCs, and it’s been a winning strategy. I like to think of MS being about the democratization of technology. Address all the price points and form factors the market will support, and leave the choice to consumers, which is pretty much the polar opposite of Apple.

If you were Samsung, a long time maker of PCs, and the company you’d partnered with for years and years, that you had a relationship with, was going to be offering you an fully integrated way to bring that experience to consumers in a new form factor, why wouldn’t you want be in on that action? (I won’t even touch on how Sammy’s board must feel about their Android tablet experience, and how it might effect their view of Win8). If I was Samsung, I would be all over the idea of a Samsung kiosk/store with a display showing WP8, WinRT Tablets, Win8 Laptops, Win8PCs and my latest Television hooked up to the newest XBox. Think about that for a minute as a consumer.

You walk into your local electronics box store, and there is a row or semi circle of devices on display, everthing from a 4" phone to a 60" TV, all of them with colourful live tiles flipping over and updating the same information, nothing could be simplier for getting the “integration” message across. Who wouldn’t want to buy into that ecosystem?

Also, a single OEM is the equivalent of putting all your eggs in one basket. Apple barely survived a few bad decisions, WebOS was all eggs in one basket, and so is RIM. Competition makes the breed stronger, and I think, by and large MS has a strategy that will direct the energies of the OEMs in a way that will leave consumers with the best overall experience.

Regards,
Joel Rushworth
Victoria. B.C.

**Yeah, new personal policy in response to Josh’s call for more civility in the forums, I’m puting my name to what I say. These forums need an edit button AND a signature line.

I totally disagree. We’re all hoping for serious integration across the 3/4 screens with Win8, I believe the manufacturers are too. Why cut out PC makers like Samsung from being able to capitalize on that integration and building for all of the form factors come this fall?

I’ve been thinking monitors might get smaller, so they can be closer to you, but with a much higher ppi, which would have the same effect as a larger monitor further away. Being closer to the keyboard would make using touch occasionally a more practical option.

Joel Rushworth
Victoria, B.C.

Anyone know
*if it has “all share” (DLNA)?
*what the outright price is going to be?

I have 4 Samsung TV’s, 3 of which are “smart”, a Sammy fridge, laser printer, and I was hoping to get a WP. My experience with Sammy’s lack of support once a device has been made completely mirrors the OP’s, and I would be extremely hard pressed to consider a Sammy device when WP8 hits in the fall.

If you’re thinking something with a touch screen, IIRC MS has been doing some serious work on the screen front, something about increasing the sensitivity at the edges of the display, something not available on the current generation of Win based touch devices.

Who the hell has even seen a blue screen on Win7? This guy (OP) is just extremely short sighted, and talking out of his ass.