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I wish I would like Tomorrow podcast, but I can't

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In theory, the podcast is amazing. Every episode Topolsky talking with an cool guest. But I find every talk very boring, very flat. Try to hear 30 minutes, stop. Try again a few episodes later, same thing.

For example, last week episode was with Matias Duarte, Google VP of design (or something like). But the talk never go in a interesting direction. Joshua keep interrupting with pointless commentaries. Don't go in deep examples of google mobile design. Go too long in boring subjects. Matias started to tell how he had a computer when was a kid. And how the computer is great because allow you to make things. This bland level of talking.

The only episode I liked was with Paul, because they talked about things really funny and very personal. Don't reach the same thing with the other guests.