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Ctrl-Walt-Delete: Walt and Nilay talk in code

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Walt delves into his past as a national security reporter, weighing in on the modern encryption debate. What is the balance between privacy and national security? We'd also like to bid a fond welcome our newest podcast subscriber: the FBI.

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