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The Vergecast 172: Red meat and red moons on a special science episode

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Nilay Patel is joined by Liz Lopatto, Loren Grush, and hype-seater Arielle Duhaime-Ross in a special science issue of The Vergecast. They break down why The Verge cares about science, the space (lack of) race, Verge staff childhood misadventures, the Vergier year ahead and the terrible, oh-so-terrible use of exclamation points in ad copy.

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