This week on Why’d You Push That Button?, we try to find happiness. Kaitlyn Tiffany deactivates her Instagram, I support her, and then we chat with other people who have dabbled with deleting the app. Most of them say Instagram made them feel bad, or took up too much of their time, or in Kaitlyn’s case, made her sad after a breakup.

We talk to one of my most on-trend friends, Ryan Curtis, about how he and his wife quit Instagram one day just to see if they could handle it. Then we chat with Musa Nyangiwe, an influencer who quit, as well as Justina Semčenkaitė, another influencer who quit the platform.

With their stories as context, we talk with Sarita Schoenebeck, an associate professor at the University of Michigan, who studied why people gave up a separate platform — Twitter — for a brief period of time. And then, finally, Maggie Stanphill, a UX director at Google, talks us through the company’s Digital Wellbeing platform and how the company wants to give people tools to gain control over their technology use.

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