Apple had a few surprises for us this week: a new version of the fan-favorite iPhone SE and the early availability of its Magic Keyboard for the iPad Pro.

This week on The Verge’s flagship podcast, The Vergecast, co-hosts Nilay Patel, Dieter Bohn, and Paul Miller discuss what parts the SE is using from other iPhones, what the price means for the smartphone market, and how the camera will lean on Apple’s software.

In the second half of the show, Dieter discusses his review of the OnePlus 8 Pro and how it got an 8.5 out of 10 score from The Verge. Is OnePlus now taking on Samsung?

There’s a lot more in between all of that — like why Verizon is buying videoconferencing software BlueJeans, how Apple is tweaking MacBook software to extend its battery lifespan, and Paul’s weekly segment “More hertz than you can handle, old man” — so listen here or in your preferred podcast player to hear it all.

Stories discussed this week:

• The Interface Live on Zoom: the hidden history of Instagram, with Bloomberg reporter Sarah Frier
• In a self-isolated world, developers are learning to make games from home
• How GM and Ford switched out pickup trucks for breathing machines
• The search for COVID-19 treatments shows how messy science can be
• How Medium became the best and worst place for coronavirus news
• Unemployment checks are being held up by a coding language almost nobody knows
• How you’ll use Apple and Google’s coronavirus tracking tool
• Apple’s second-gen iPhone SE is here: all the news and details
• Even ‘small’ phones are big now
• The iPhone SE 2’s camera setup is going to lean on Apple’s software
• The new Moto G Stylus and G Power are surprisingly adept cameraphones
• Samsung’s Galaxy S10 Lite will launch in the US on April 17th for $650
• Google’s midrange Pixel 4A could launch soon, and there may not be an XL version
• Apple is tweaking how MacBooks charge to extend battery lifespan
• Apple’s new Magic Keyboard for the iPad Pro goes up for preorder, ships next week
• Apple’s over-ear headphones reportedly have swappable ear pads and headbands
• Here are five things with four wheels that cost less than the Mac Pro’s $700 wheel kit
• Go read this analysis of what the iPad Pro’s LIDAR sensor is capable of
• OnePlus 8 Pro review: big league
• OnePlus 8 review: familiar formula
• OnePlus announces the Bullets Wireless Z headphones
• The $579 RedMagic 5G is the first phone with a 144Hz display
• Verizon is buying BlueJeans, one of Zoom’s videoconferencing rivals
• Google is reportedly building its own processor for Pixels and Chromebooks
• Foxconn’s buildings in Wisconsin are still empty, one year later