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“Are you aware that in this case we have received just two chats from you since this litigation was filed?”

Lockheimer, too, didn’t turn on his chat history to preserve evidence, it seems. Epic says his lawyers told them he never took any steps to preserve chats. As with many things, Lockheimer said he wasn’t aware.

We do have one chat between Lockheimer and former YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki, though, where they talk about how YouTube is being forced into Google Play Billing while “Spotify is our competitor who is being exempted,” according to Wojcicki.

Lockheimer is now Google’s witness.