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Epic’s kind of all over the place in our last minutes with Hiroshi.

Epic lead attorney Bornstein raised the idea of switching costs between iPhone and Android, suggesting that Lockheimer once said it was “pretty impossible” for anyone with an Apple Watch to switch to Android — that internal Google studies show 97 percent of people with an Apple Watch won’t switch.

Lockheimer basically shrugged.

Epic tried to suggest the folding phones Lockheimer toyed with on the stand were just hardware innovation, not software. Lockheimer (rightly, based on what I know of Android’s many changes to support foldables) said no.

Epic asked Lockheimer which came first: tipping off reporters, or the bug report going live? It seems pretty clear from evidence we’ve seen that the bug report went live first, even if Google planned it that way.