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Google is establishing Kleidermacher’s security bonafides.

“I’ve dedicated my entire career to it — over 30 years,” he says. He was CSO at BlackBerry, is an engineering VP not just for Android but also Google hardware, manages 400 employees at Google, and is walking us through both high-level terms like malware and spyware as well as some specific examples.

He answers immediately and confidently every time, often addressing the jury when he explains a concept.

“If we removed those consent screens, more users would be harmed and that would hurt security at Android,” he says of the Unknown Sources sideloading process.