Qualcomm announces the Snapdragon 845 processor

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Qualcomm today announced that its next flagship processor will be called the Snapdragon 845, the company said at its Snapdragon Tech Summit. The 845 is a direct successor to last year’s very popular Snapdragon 835, and it will likely bring improved performance, better power efficiency, and improved image processing. The Snapdragon 845 will likely be found in many high-end Android phones in 2018, though it is also expected to make its way to Windows 10 laptops as well.

Last year’s Snapdragon 835 featured a 10nm manufacturing process, and the 845 is expected to be the same. Qualcomm will pair the 845 with its latest X20 LTE modem, which provides gigabit connectivity on supported networks. Qualcomm is hosting its annual conference this week, where we expect to learn more about the Snapdragon 845 and all of its capabilities, so stay tuned for more.

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Looking forward to FULL FIDILETY Windows 10 ARM Laptops!

Windows machines with the battery life of iPads is likely

Watch out! The phone will burn you!

What kind of cores are we talking? ARM stock/semicustom, or fully custom?

Wonder if it’ll finally surpass the 6S per-core…

Coming first to a Samsung phone near you! All other Android OEM’s are being shortchanged by moves like this. It really isn’t fair to competition and the market.

Doesn’t Samsung use its own Exynos chips?

They use both, and usually split them between markets. They like to buy out stock in the early months from Qualcomm.

I’ve heard 2 main reasons:

  1. Patent issues with Qualcomm (which also prevent Samsung from selling its SoC)
  2. Exynos has poor CDMA support and the US has a large CDMA presence (thanks Verizon and Sprint!)

Samsung can sell their SoC. Meizu has been using Exynos for their phone for years. The issue is quantity. I don’t think Samsung can make it in such a large amount to sell.

The patent issue is a recent development, but supply chain constraints may very well be another reason.

Given that Qualcomm hires Samsung to manufacture Snapdragon chips, it’s far more likely that CDMA support is the reason. Once Verizon stops using CDMA in 2019, it will be a very different story.

Its also the reason Apple used Qualcomm modems in its CDMA iPhone 8 / X this year otherwise it would have been all Intel for them. Patent lockout of CDMA is probably part of that… JMHO…

Although even with patents, there’s non-Qualcomm CDMA IP on US networks today – AFAIK MediaTek is using a VIA Telecom CDMA modem in some of their SoCs, which have appeared on Verizon. Oh, and VIA Telecom’s CDMA IP was bought by Intel.

I think it is more a third option…Samsung has issues meeting demand off just one supply. Even apple has multiple display partners. Samsung treats their chip business like their display business, they have to buy it from themselves…they dont really care who it comes from as long as it is a quality part.

Also US phones have had Exynos chips before… I think the last one was the Note5…so being we don’t speak of the 7, and there was no 6, the last one

They aren’t really being shortchanged. Chances are Samsung is paying more per chip than they will be and its chips will have higher failure rates due to being the first production run. They can only make so many, someones gonna get shortchanged no matter what.

7nm isn’t used anywhere by anything yet and Qualcom makes like 25 times as many chips as Apple does. Apple just makes gigantic ones and absorbs the inflated cost by selling their phones are enormous markups.

I doubt a genuine 7nm will be ready for the summer, that seems a little fast from the schedules I’ve seen.

Process nodes aren’t that simple and different companies measure nodes differently. TSMC tend to over claim in comparison to Samsung and even more in comparison to Intel. For instance Intels 14nm process node from 2014 is similar to TSMC’s 10nm node in terms of how many transistors you can fit in an area and power characteristics.

Yes and no. They’re just using the most optimistic measurement for nm scale provided by their supplier. There are different ways to measure pitch vs density etc. Intel, Samsung, and TSMC just uses different methods.

Process scale kinda became a marketing gimmick a few years ago, so claims started to drift away from accuracy in places.

The note 8 is a much larger phone. To me the better comparison is to the Galaxy S8 which is relatively the same size as the iPhone X. To me its like comparing a 50" TV and a 65" TV and saying they are the same price.

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