Spotify will reveal the future of its mobile app next week

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Spotify will be announcing news about changes in its mobile app at an event next week, according to an invite the company sent out. The event will feature presentations from chief R&D officer Gustav Söderström, vice president of product development Babar Zafar, and global head of creator services Troy Carter.

Rumors have swirled around the April 24th event since the initial invitation went out a couple weeks ago. At the time, it only instructed recipients to save the date for a news announcement, leading to guesses that it could have to do with updates to the app, or the company’s potential hardware pursuits.

Now that the new flyer confirms the event will be about the mobile app, there are a couple of options with what could be debuted. Spotify has been testing voice control with select iOS accounts, letting users more quickly navigate the app experience. Additionally, according to a Bloomberg report, the company has been working on several changes to the free subscription that will make the service easier to use, especially for those accessing it on mobile devices.

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Spotify will be announcing news about changes in its mobile app

So a PWA can’t be mobile?

There is no point in doing so. Windows mobile is dead.

I don’t think there is any chance this is PWA, but I’m not sure if you realize PWA is platform agnostic.

Trust me I know. But there is no point in using PWA for this. There are other platform agnostic tools such as react native which fits spotifys development style more.

Needs a way to set it to "don’t stream when not connected to WiFi" without having to go fully into offline mode.

Hopefully the service tier changes will up the 10,000 song library limit for paid users. That’s a dealbreaker for me, and will be for most people who use it for more than a few years.

That limit was the main reason I left. It was infuriating to manage your library constantly. They have been giving the same "use a playlist" solution for years. A playlist does not = a library.

See, this is where I just don’t understand things. Why wouldn’t you use playlists? And why are you saving 10k songs with nary a playlist? Do you seriously listen to that many full albums offline? I just don’t understand. As someone who rarely listens to a full album and spends 99% of his time using playlists, I just can’t relate. I’m not saying you’re are using the service wrong or anything, I just simply don’t understand the complaint. Can you explain it to me?

One thing that could explain it is that I’m old. I used to collect CDs (like, physical discs), so the album is my main unit of measurement when it comes to music. I browse my music library by album, and generally listen to entire albums.

I use playlists once in a while, like if I’m having a party or browsing Spotify’s pre-built playlists, but I’m pulling those songs from albums, or looking for new artists whose albums I can collect. It all comes back to the album.

So when I go to add a new album to my collection and get the smug Spotify error message, that kinda sucks.

Maybe Spotify is catering more to the people who use playlists 99% of the time, which isn’t wrong, but it’s not for me. Apple Music, luckily, has a much higher limit, and lives alongside all those ancient ripped CDs too.

As a person that doesn’t save any music ever, this confuses me. Did you know you can drag the album to the New Playlist button and it makes the playlist the album? Then it’s on the sidebar for easy access. You can even dump them into folders, so I save all my albums per year, and after a while I delete the ones I didn’t care for. Makes year end lists super easy. Let alone if I’m not just searching for the album. Aren’t you just endlessly scrolling through albums to find the thing you want?

So yes, I don’t get the limit, but I also don’t understand people who run up into it.

Maybe I haven’t gotten across why saving music in a library (vs. playlists) is more desirable … it’s largely about organization.

Sure, I could have 2000 playlists in a mile-long sidebar. But then I’d have to not only manually organize them (in folders, or according to some system I devise), but they’re stuck in whatever order I choose. Every time I save something, I have to figure out where to put it.

With the library, I hit the plus symbol, and it’s in my library. Later, I can sort by album, artist, song, date added to library, etc. I can browse it in the coherent order of my choosing, and I don’t have to rely on my memory to manually search for something every time I want music. It just makes life a lot simpler, as long as there is no limit to the library size.

I get that most people today don’t care about this, treating their music collection like a sloppy email inbox, but maybe a lot just don’t know how much less thinking it takes to have a library that’s organized for you through the magic of computers.

I listen to full albums 99% of the time, and am not interested in trying to search through playlists to find one. It also feels like a strange limitation from a technical standpoint; if I can have multiple 10k song playlists, why can’t I just save more than 10k songs? It feels like they took a shortcut and are passing their tech debt onto the consumer (the limitation makes me feel like my library is a hidden playlist with some special UI around it).

The limit is not for OFFLINE SONGS, the limit is for your complete online collection, which is completely insane. Your library is an index, it shouldn’t have a limit.

I don’t understand the limit honestly. Why have a library in the first place if there’s a limit on it? I joined Spotify 3 years ago and hit the limit, and I don’t even consider myself a power user. I love full albums and playlists. But I save the albums in my library mostly so I can remember to play them at a later date (think of it as a bookmark in a browser). At this point I’d rather they fix the limit or get rid of the library feature so I can adjust my listening habits.

Thanks everyone for the reply. I guess I understand but I don’t relate. My wife and I have over 400 CD’s but the days of us feeling obliged to listen to an entire album because of a few tracks have a long since passed. I’m almost 40 so not a millenial, and none of my friends listen to albums anymore. Like I said I will on occasion, but usually not. But when I do I generally find only a couple of songs were worth my time. You be you though. If Spotify doesn’t work for you with the 10k limit speak with your wallet

It’s not even that I’ll always listen to the album as a whole. The idea of having a collection that is just incomplete albums whether I like the song or not just gives me a form of digital anxiety.

I think ultimately it’s just different people have different ways of doing things. You like playlists, I like choosing an artist and shuffling all the albums of theirs that I’ve added to my library. Neither is better or worse, just different.

I also like opening iTunes and scrolling through my albums as nearly all of them have some memory/connection to a time in life and the artwork alone can trigger those memories*.

*Oh god, I’m actually getting old enough to be sentimental!

With respect, I really don’t think it’s a problem most people would ever encounter.

Wouldn’t everyone encounter it eventually?

Take the Discover Weekly playlist, one of Spotify’s most-loved features. It provides 30 songs, and encourages "save your favorites!"

Save all 30 of them (or the equivalent) every week, and that’s over 1,500 songs a year. You’ll hit the limit in just 6.5 years.

And that’s a very light user who doesn’t save any albums, just a few songs a week.

Most people won’t notice the limit at first, but Spotify has already been around for more than 6 years, and will hopefully be around for 6 more, so everyone who uses their library will hit the limit at some point.

No I won’t.

My condolences.

All that I want, all that all these people and their 4 years/370 pages of complaints want,

https://community.spotify.com/t5/Live-Ideas/Increase-maximum-songs-allowed-in-quot-Your-Music-quot/idi-p/733759#comment-on-this

is for the entirely arbitrary 10,000 song limit to be removed. Or an honest explanation of why its there in the first place.

I bet we don’t though –it’s going to be another gimmicky piece of garbage (a la videos, podcasts).

Has spotify fixed the issue where it just randomly forgets all the music I’ve downloaded? It’s the main issue I switched to Apple Music.

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