Windows 10 is now more popular than Windows 7

Microsoft finished 2018 as the world’s most valuable company, but it also passed an important milestone for Windows. The latest Windows 10 operating system is now the most popular desktop OS in the world, finally beating Windows 7’s market share according to Net Applications. Windows 10 held 39.22 percent of desktop OS market share in December 2018, compared to 36.9 percent for Windows 7. It’s a statistic that’s taken Microsoft three and a half years to achieve, and it demonstrates just how popular Windows 7 has been since its release nearly 10 years ago.

Microsoft had been planning to get Windows 10 running on a billion devices within three years of its release, but the company soon extended that timeline after it was clear that Windows Phone wouldn’t help it achieve this aim. Windows 10 is now running on more than 700 million devices, including PCs, tablets, phones, and even Xbox One consoles. Windows 7 has held on strong in recent years, despite Microsoft’s big push to get PC users to upgrade for free and even a “PC does what?” marketing campaign designed to target consumers who have four- or five year-old computers.

The market share milestone is an important one for Windows 10, and it comes just a year before Microsoft ends its extended support for Windows 7 on January 14th, 2020. Microsoft will still need to convince businesses with deep pockets to upgrade to Windows 10, instead of opting for the Extended Security Updates (ESU) program for Windows 7 next year. Microsoft faced a similar challenge to move businesses from Windows XP to Windows 7, and the company released white papers to compare the costs of the two operating systems nearly seven years ago.


Outside of enterprise compatibility issues, are there still any valid reasons to stick with Windows 7?

(and "forced" updates and dubious privacy concerns aren’t really valid reasons)

I’d guess primarily it’s just the enterprise mindset of "if it works, don’t fix it" hence you can stumble upon hilariously outdated stuff still chugging away in the dark corners of company buildings. My mom’s work had a DOS based mainframe setup in operation until about 2014~ it wasn’t their primary system but it was used as a secondary status display thing.

As of 2014, AT&T still had employees with pagers lol probably still does.

I suspect a lot of users just don’t know they could, or didn’t do it based on fear of problems caused by the upgrade. I spoke to a friend just before Christmas, who isn’t technical, but does work for an IT company, and he had a Win7 laptop that he didn’t know he could have upgraded. Win7 still works for most people who just want to surf the web. Why would they bother spending the time and risk in an upgrade?

How is forced updates not a valid reason? I would be using windows 7 hadn’t I stop them with policies, and I’d rather wait for my work computer to stop turning on before taking it to IT and risk having windows 10 installed.

A couple of weeks ago, a coworker was locked out of his laptop for 2 and a half hours because windows had to update. IT had to get him a replacement laptop so he could attend the meetings scheduled for that morning.

Forced updates are definitely a real problem. Sorry but Microsoft should AT LEAST give us the option to schedule updates on the weekends or during off work hours permanently. And give warnings at least 3 or 4 times if we don’t let it update. With my windows 10 PC, the updates just appear when I want to turn the PC off. I never update it then though, just wait til the next time I turn it on to let it update.

You can turn them off, my PC never reboots unless I allow it to.

That takes quite a check list of arcane settings and services to disable though, in order to really make it stop. And the next big system upgrade will turn it all back on again. Maybe Microsoft does not force the updates in the strictest sense of the word, but they do make it very difficult to avoid them.

Yeah, it’s certainly not easy – but it’s feasible for power users, who I presume are the ones that don’t like to reboot in the first place.

That’s not true. Just about every user on a work laptop hates them. Who wants to be getting off of work at 5 and have updates start when you want to turn off the PC and go home? And then if you power off with the power button they’ll just start the next day and possibly waste your first 30 minutes.

Who wants to be getting off of work at 5 and have updates start when you want to turn off the PC and go home?

Obviously I’m not defending MS here, but Windows will update and shutdown by itself.

That’s another source of annoyance since it happens at the wrong times. They should let people schedule it. And only force it after it’s been like a month. At that point, you had your shot to update it when it was convenient.

I’m not sure why you’re arguing here, you suggested people can’t let it update and shutdown which wasn’t correct.

It’s universally agreed that it’s annoying and should change.

you suggested people can’t let it update and shutdown which wasn’t correct.

No I didn’t. I said nobody wants to do that.

Who wants to be getting off of work at 5 and have updates start when you want to turn off the PC and go home?

Meaning once you hit shutdown, it starts updating. People usually take their work laptop home and this holds people up.

Really? Who doesn’t want that? You hit shutdown, the system installs the updates and turns off, tomorrow you turn it on it takes 2 minutes to finish and configure and you’re up and going again with almost no disruption. Isn’t that exactly what we all want?

Really? Who doesn’t want that?

I already answered that, however I will admit it’s perfect for desktops or a laptop you leave at work (most people don’t in my experience.)

People usually take their work laptop home and this holds people up.

You can do all these things. You can defer, schedule etc. It doesn’t just grab your computer randomly without any option or permission unless you hit a yes button. Maybe it did at some point, but that is not be experience at any recent time

Windows has had the ability to schedule updates for some time…

Forced updates and ads are awful. Plus the fact it’s taking sooo long for the UI to come together. However, in terms of general look and feel Windows 7 is ancient at this point.

UI kind of sucks
Forced upgrades, unwanted reboots
Popouts all the time
UI sucks (again)
General loss of control over the OS

Take away all those other cons, and I could live with windows 10 UI.

I pretty much hate the UI. A big step backwards.
For example, it’s hard to see scrollbars. They’re narrow and there’s no border on the scroll zone. In dark themes, often the background is black and the scrollbar is dark gray.
There’s both a Control Panel AND a Settings.
Notifications pop up all the time and they’re a pain. Yeah I know they can be configured not to do that, but the tyranny of the default means most people aren’t going to dig for that, they’re going to tolerate it.

People really wanted control panel. Therefore, Microsoft should have only kept control panel. But oh well, they won’t change it now.

I’m not so much against forced updates (on clients anyway) but why do we now have these torturously slow updates?

It used to be the case that the longest wait was down to our poor little dial up connections trying to download them but now it just seems to sit there even on a high end machine.

I actually found the update speed had been drastically improved since at least April 2018 update from what I can remember (probably from even earlier). I have confirmed this not only on my own machine but also tested on an older 2013 mid-high spec laptop, and the speed is pretty impressive. The monthly update feel almost like a regular restart as most of the time it add less than one minute to the whole sequence. And big feature update feel like an old monthly update. Granted both my machine and the 2013 laptop has at least SSD as main drive and a decent clock quad core CPU, but that’s a pretty common baseline configuration nowadays.

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