TikTok says the Trump administration has forgotten about trying to ban it, would like to know what’s up

Illustration by Alex Castro / The Verge

TikTok has filed a petition in a US Court of Appeals calling for a review of actions by the Trump administration’s Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States (CFIUS). The reason, according to the company, is that it hasn’t heard from the committee in weeks about an imminent deadline for parent company ByteDance to sell off US assets over national security concerns.

The CFIUS set the deadline of November 12th for TikTok to divest itself of “any tangible or intangible assets or property, wherever located, used to enable or support ByteDance’s operation of the TikTok application in the United States.” TikTok says it applied for a 30-day extension that was allowed for in the CFIUS’ order, but hasn’t received any communication on the matter. It’s not clear what would actually happen if the deadline passed; TikTok was granted a preliminary injunction against it late last month.

“For a year, TikTok has actively engaged with CFIUS in good faith to address its national security concerns, even as we disagree with its assessment,” TikTok says in a statement to The Verge. “In the nearly two months since the President gave his preliminary approval to our proposal to satisfy those concerns, we have offered detailed solutions to finalize that agreement – but have received no substantive feedback on our extensive data privacy and security framework.”

“Facing continual new requests and no clarity on whether our proposed solutions would be accepted, we requested the 30-day extension that is expressly permitted in the August 14 order,” the statement continues. “Today, with the November 12 CFIUS deadline imminent and without an extension in hand, we have no choice but to file a petition in court to defend our rights and those of our more than 1,500 employees in the US. We remain committed to working with the Administration — as we have all along — to resolve the issues it has raised, but our legal challenge today is a protection to ensure these discussions can take place.”

ByteDance agreed to sell part of its US business in a complicated deal including Oracle and Walmart, which President Trump approved in September. But the deal was never sanctioned by the Chinese government, and it’s been in limbo ever since.


Good luck getting anything but calumny about the election and last minute gritting out of the current administration. They can probably just wait it out at this point, although Trump might try to hit them up for cash again if things get dire.

Bart: "Draining? Ahh I don’t care about that anymore."


So if you take the Trump administration’s argument that TikTok is a threat to national security (lol), then this proves they dont actually give a flying fuck about the information safety of the American people.

And if you’re not a complete moron and instead took their argument with a healthy container ship of salt, then this further proves it was just a political stunt to help their re-election campaign and it’s no longer serving its usefulness.

Theres no wsy to slice this that doesnt make them look like total asshats.

That TikTok is a trojan horse and the Trump administration not caring about anyone, can both be true at the same time.

they had no proof of Huawei doing anything bad and while there were bad things about TikTok security, it seemed more like TikTok didn’t care that much and could fix it in a few days. Why would China even care what Americans post on a TikTok? They would rather target high profile individuals and decision making platforms, than TikTok.
The only reason why Trump was fighting it is to get better trade deal from China and support of the people (bad China spying, good Trump fighting with China). And of course to protect US companies. Which are not bad goals for US president, though. They just couldn’t say: we ban these companies to force China to play along our rules

You don’t see why a major foreign power with a history of censorship having control over a major social app is bad? Facebook and Twitter is already bad enough, do we need to throw a China version into the mix?

You know the owner of tik-tok was actually pretty outspoken against the ccp and has pro-western views. He became the laughing stock of China after his app got ban in the usa

The owner of TikTok is ByteDance, not a person.

You don’t see a problem when a President, embarrassed after being outmanoeuvred by a bunch of teenagers, directed the US government to punish a private company claiming "national security" threats, and then, bored and distracted, has just moved on?

Trump has run the entire US government with the same lack of focus and blatant self-interest that he showed with Trump Corp. The frankly terrifying fact is, the US Government seems incapable of preventing him from doing it.

Think about it. National security priorities and resources have been established based on how they impact Trump’s ego, not on any real threat posed to the country he pretends to serve.

That’s the perception.

The reality was that the event didn’t have any capacity or seating restrictions. So if you bought a ticket, it didn’t mean that the ticket gave you an assigned seat. It was just a spot there. The Trump campaign wanted to pack people into the event like sardines. They kinda made provisions for an overflow of people.

But when the day came, Trumpie looked up and saw all those empty rows. That wasn’t because of TikTok. It was because people simply didn’t want to come. And the teens on TikTok immediately took credit for something that to be honest, didn’t make any difference.

Again, there were no capacity or seating restrictions. This wasn’t a case where there were (let’s just say), 10000 seats, with the teens having scooped all the assigned seats up – therefore leaving none left. No…the event didn’t have any capacity restrictions at all, and no limitations on how many tickets could be "sold"(they were free).

They did get the Trump organization to brag about how massive the rally was going to be and to build an outside area for overflow of 10,000 people thus humiliating the Trumptard.

Where did I say I don’t see a problem with (soon to be ex-president) Trump? But even a broken clock is right twice a day, and TikTok IS an issue.

a major foreign power with a history of censorship having control over a major social app

You could just as easily be talking about any American run social media so this argument is just never gonna hold much weight.

The US doesn’t "own" Twitter or Facebook, much to the government’s frustration.

but they can force them to do anything through laws. Same way TikTok isn’t controlled by Chinese government, but if Chinese government want them to cooperate, they will

TikTok isn’t owned by the Chinese government.

Did anyone for a second actually believe that Trump actually knew any specific details about how TikTok works and the real vulnerabilities?

If there’s one thing I’m sure of is that Ted Lieu is the only guy in government that has a solid understanding of our industry. All of the other old codgers just parrot the words that they’ve been fed from their donors.

I’m pretty sure it’s because of Sarah Cooper making those dub videos of him and he didn’t like it so I he wanted it banned

That or the Ariana/BTS stans that requested thousands of tickets for his Tulsa rally.

TBH, the biggest issue for TikTok is that if the Trump administration announces anything in the next few weeks, does it represent the position of just the Trump administration or the US federal government?

Right now, most governments in the world, including Canada, don’t actually know what is the appropriate method to interact with the US federal government. Usually a president that has lost an election becomes a lame duck, but Trump is still trying to actively formulate policy. In Canada, there was a debate about whether we should even accept the Trump administration’s pick for US ambassador to Canada! We did accept it, but frankly I don’t even know if this "ambassador" is even legally authorized to represent US interests in Canada. Would we need to get sign-off from Biden??? This would have been beyond the pale with any other administration.

Biden is not currently the president, so I would say the ambassador is authorized to represent US interests in Canada. Biden’s inauguration should take place on 20th January 2021, at which point he will be the president.

I don’t know why but the title cracks me up.

I think that may have been the intent

I know why, it’s called humor. Feels good, right?!

It no longer serves their purpose because they’re about to go out the door. It’s the same as the now forgotten atrocity propaganda that is the "3 million Uighurs."

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