The OnePlus 9 and 9 Pro can now use Verizon’s 5G network

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The OnePlus 9 and 9 Pro are now certified for use on Verizon’s network, which means Verizon customers will be able to use the phones with the carrier’s 5G network; without certification, the phones would be limited to LTE. The news was announced today by a Verizon representative, but the timeline is a little unclear. OnePlus had said it was working with Verizon, but there were no promises that it would be done by the phone’s launch.

The 5G story has been a bit confusing for the OnePlus 9 series phones from the start. Only the Pro model has the ultra-fast mmWave, and at announcement, the phones were only listed as 5G-compatible on T-Mobile’s network. Even with today’s news, that still leaves AT&T customers who buy a OnePlus 9 paying for 5G they can’t currently use. OnePlus’ carrier compatibility chart (which can be found via the OnePlus 9 or 9 Pro’s preorder page) currently lists the phones as having no bands compatible with AT&T.

Despite the initial confusion, it’s good that the phone can now be fully used on two out of the three major US carriers. The phones still aren’t listed in the Verizon store, but if you buy an unlocked OnePlus 9 or 9 Pro, you can use them with an existing or new Verizon account.

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Out of curiosity, is last year’s Oneplus 8Pro compatible with AT&T?

It seems like it’s not, at least when it comes to 5G.

Everyone needs to clarify what they mean by 5G… do you mean skinny girl piggy back slower than LTE 5G. or do you mean master race ultrawideband hold on to your hats 2Gbps 5G? This article doesn’t clarify, but I’m assuming Verizon’s extensive mmWave is supported… T-Mobile’s Sub6 is good a should bea given.

Anyway… My pixel just started working on mmWave 5G… it’s still high latency NSA type, Verizon needs more Sub 6 deployments to make that viable… but getting consistently over 200Mbps is a game changer. Well not literally, no one is going to play games on a 150ms ping.

We’ve been trying to experiment with 5G hotspots for remote workers with unreliable (e.g. apartment provided) networks who are accessing a VDI system on-prem. So far it’s been hot garbage, primarily because no carrier will provide a no-bullshit coverage map of actual 5G penetration.

Why does a specific phone need to be certified to work with a carrier’s 5G?

Swear that’s not a thing in the UK or is it a new 5G requirement?

If the phone has a necessary tech that means it should or does on 4G in the UK. No mention of this in UK OnePlus 9 Pro reviews so I presume all British carriers are supported.

Thanks

I can’t imagine how it works over in the UK… It’s a small nightmare here. For some reason BYOD is the exception at the high end and all the major carriers strongly discourage it. AT&T for instance still has zero support for 5G NSA/SA on BYOD devices. Even on Verizon’s network much more mature 5G mmW network, you need to wait for an over the air update of your Carrier Services app to get connected and unthrottled… if they decide to add your phone to the list of approved IMEI’s. If you are on a verizon MVNO, you will never get unthrotled netflix video… even on mmWave.

Throttling is a HUGE deal here. T-Mobile will notoriously throttle all their MVNO’s to 20% of available bandwidth. Meaning if your neighbors are live vlogging at 100Mbps, you’ll be stuck with a barely liveable 20Mbps in the mean time.

There is a benefit to the shananigans… carriers try out weird strategies like Verizons roll out of mmWave and T-Mobiles polar opposite wide sub6 SA network. The rest of the world can learn from our mistakes lol

Hi,

My impression, the UK and US markets are pretty similar. We also lock phones (most don’t and it’s going to be illegal this year) and our MVNOs throttle too.

Get this BT owns EE (merger of T-Mobile and Orange) but EE offers up to 90Mbps whilst BT Mobile only offers 30Mbps or get an addon for 6Mbps. BT own the entire EE company including their 90Mbps but don’t offer it themselves. BT are huge, they own all the physical telephone lines nationally (except cable).

UK carriers also discourage BYOD because they don’t really like SIM Only plans, but I’ve never heard of phones needing to be certified.

Is this the same for 4G or is it new to 5G? Any idea why 5G requires phone certification?

I’m pretty sure in The UK phones don’t require specific 5G carrier certification. The required 5G tech just needs to be in the phone. That’s all they talk about.

You guys do have a major benefit, mmWave isn’t a thing in the UK. All carriers are using Sub6 (guess as it’s not mmWave). Even EE who’ve always been known as the fastest 4G aren’t offering it :(.

Phone payment Plans are the new 3 year contract… Its carriers pushing things… Competing is expensive… Shananigans buy them time and boost profits. Carriers play a precarious game of making MVNOs much worse if you’re not careful and competing with themselves.

They’ve always had arbitrary restrictions… They do it mostly to avoid marketing that undercuts the main carrier, and to help the MVNOs justify their existence. Cricket for instance will limit speeds to 8mbps on all their plans except their most expensive one, but they mention that as a subtle footnote, instead focusing on fuzzy benefits like HBO, Prime and Google Drive subscriptions.

T-Mobile MVNO deprioritization shananigans are the worst IMO… They are the least clear and most perplexing to people… You’ll get 150Mbps one day but most of the day you’re stuck at 14Mbps and wonder why. Without clarity, it’s impossible to judge how good that $45 a month Metro/Yellow is. US Mobile makes it even less clear maxing carriers with completely different capacities… It’s be great to have unthrottled T-Mobile wide sub6 and switch to Verizon mmWave when available, but obviously that’s not happening without paying an arm/leg… We have eSIM phones, that should be more of a thing.

Then you have Page Plus/Visible backed By Verizon… Visible is the cheapest way to get unlimited mmWave… mmWave breaks the data cap model. You’ll get peaks of over 200Mbps, a far-cry from the 2Gbps, but when you’re on the crowded LTE/thin 5G, you’ll be lucky to get over 15Mbps in the day.

To answer your question, the Carrier Services updates and LTE/5G whitelisting tomfoolery have been around for ever… It’s just how they’ve always done business. It’s not entirely unwarranted, as I recall a phone like 7 years ago having a problematic radio… There are probably some useless people on the payroll pushing to keep the system in place… Whitelisting issues are almost always resolved within 2 months after a phone call or two. They are a real PITA if you’re always on the edge… Verizon’s system said my unlocked Pixel 4a 5G was not supported, … I pretended I was going to use a 3a and got in, it worked fine. Then my 5 was showing in their system as a random non 5G device until I bugged them about it and they pushed an update to the locked APN settings through the Carrier Services app.

#endrant

This really does not make much difference, because neither Verizon nor AT&T have a significant amount of 5G coverage in the US, and what they do have is of less capability than their existing LTE service. The situation is even worse with millimeter-wave 5G since it only works outdoors with nothing blocking a direct path from the user to the transmitter over a short distance of only a block or so. 5G is currently not a factor for someone in the market for a new phone.

This is not completely true. I use a Galaxy S 21 Ultra and I get 5G all over NY on T-Mobile. And it’s much faster than my LTE speeds.

… you’re right but for the wrong reason. T-Mobile has "wide band" sub6 SA 5G which penetrates, has low ping times and is less encumbered than LTE while being more efficient at using their 80Mhz wide channels.

I get mmWave Verizon 5G indoors, on my bed… it does work indoors, just not far from the window… my pole is 100m away. I hear T-Mobiles near non-existent mmWave can go a little further on account that they aren’t dealing with NSA tunnel hand offs.

imo if you’re not getting over 200Mbps, it’s not 5G.

When you say "less encumbered than LTE" I assume you are meaning less people are using it. This is my question…what happens when the same number of people start slamming those 5G transceivers?

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