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Comment 21 recs
Lets get some stuff out of the way:
- Yes Apple is abusive and engages in exploitative abuse.
- Yes Apple has a dominant position.
- No you do not need to be a monopoly for that.
- Yes a judge already ruled on this
- No it is not a short time for Apple to be complaint;
- The ACM ruling dates back to the 24th of august.
- The Judge upheld an appeal on the 24th of december.
Comment 2 recs
For someone showing off their credentials regarding monopolies, your argument that iOS is not dominant based merely on a simple consumer market share statistic is laughable.
Not to mention the fact that there we are talking about a duopoly here, which almost makes for two dominant players in this space by definition.
Comment 1 reply, 4 recs
From the article above – please note the word "higher court":
we have appealed the ACM’s decision to a higher court.
"Go read the judge’s decision yourself. I have. If you’re too lazy to read the full ruling, you can read the first paragraph of the" courts ruling where it says that Apple is abusing its dominant position in the mobile app space with their app store…
As disappointing as this might be for you, Apple is a dominant player which comes with responsibilities.
So, yeah, the court did decide. You stand corrected.
Literally everything you wrote is wrong.
Goes on to quote European market share for a Dutch case…
The idea that dominance can only be reached by having more than 30% (or 50% or x%) market share is nonsense. Nobody is talking about monopoly or duopoly here.
The fact is that dating apps are dead on arrival if they are not on iOS, therefore Apple has a dominant position. You can argue all you want but that is what the courts decided.
Comment 2 replies, 4 recs
The court did decide, it’s a court ruling that enforced the ACM’s ruling…
Comment 3 recs
That ‘flawed’ logic you describe is exactly what the ACM and dutch court ruled.
As a dating app provider you cannot simply "go to the next store" since excluding iOS means your app is realistically dead on arrival (a major part of the singles market would unvailable for the end user). Therefore you do not "have a valid choice" and therefore Apple has a market dominance that comes with responsibilities. In this case giving the app developer choice in payment providers by getting rid of apple’s payment monopoly.
Comment 1 rec
Notice how they always choose their words.
Their response suggests that the reporting isn’t true, but they are not actually denying it.
a reality operating system ( not this is)
Growing this team (which team? The cancelled os team? The xr team? Is the team shifted to another project?)