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Sure, $999 for for something like the fat folder Lectric XP is better than $1,299 for the fat folder RadMini, but the Rad has better specs all around, and a better track record when it comes to customer service.
I’m not saying the Lectric XP is BAD, per se. They’ve managed to find a following amongst people looking to have fun with a fat folder and doing a lot of customizations (things like swapping out for BMX or ape hanger handlebars, adding banana seats, all kinds of goofy fun).
Sticking with that one type of bike, as you drop to lower prices than the XP, you’re also looking at even cheaper components, and less customer service. One just has to look at Amazon reviews for these no-name bikes to see how sometimes it worth paying a little extra for that name recognition.
I’ve generally given up on hub motors entirely, even the torque sensing hub motors I’ve test ridden just don’t feel as natural.
I much prefer mid-drives. Big fan in particular of Shimano, though I’m considering a DIY with a TSDZ2 mid-drive with throttle as a grocery getter to replace my Mini, and using the Shimano for longer adventure rides.
If I were in California, I’d get this guy to convert my Raleigh… his installs are super clean.
Rad is definitely a better than average direct-to-consumer brand. That being said, the last line is hilarious…
"These fitness-oriented bike companies are integrating an off-the-shelf powertrain from a powertrain provider that does the same thing for 100 other brands … That’s sort of a low volume and not world-changing way to think about building an e-bike company."
Pretty hypocritical, considering Rad has uses custom branded Shengyi and Bafang hub motors. I don’t think they’re manufacturing their own for 2022 either, just a deeper partnership with one or the other (think it’s Shengyi?).
Any customizations they’ve made through this partnership isn’t reflected in any great leaps in range/power/weight in their 2022 models.
Those "off-the-shelf" powertrains from Shimano (and Bosch, Yamaha, etc) kick the ass off of Rad’s hub motors for range and hill climbing. If I had to pick between my Rad Mini or OHM Cruise (Shimano), the Cruise wins, hands down.